Weird that this should show up today on one of the telegram channels I read from time to time. General Konstantin Petrov on cognitive warfare and Scientology involvement. 2004. Subtitled. Excerpt with a link to the complete session https://t.me/putingers_cat/8097
I discovered the Kay Griggs' interview several years ago. I recall having watched what I think was long version kinda obsessively over a few weeks time. Griggs' manner and her fantastical statements struck me as being very similar to allegations REPEATEDLY made by my sister regarding her Army Intelligence, Esalen-trained husband and his cohort. These encompassed descriptions of extreme physical and sexual abuse (ritualized) and threats of murder. I seemed to have been the only person to have believed her then, and now. I recall her husband, a 'family therapist' and Deputy Director of the California State Dept of Health and Human Services (and, later her children) telling me that my sister's claims were the result of a childhood abuse suffered in a series of foster homes. I have never been able to find any evidence that my much older sister was anything but a loved and somewhat pampered child (stable home, piano and voice lessons, a pony, etc.)
Mathew, I am wondering if you are familiar with the work of Jan Irvin regarding Esalen and the web of organizations connected to it. Irvin created a "brain map" documenting these connections. It may still be available online. Also, I will look for an interview Irvin did with Dr. Colin Ross, author of "The CIA Doctors".
My own research has focused on Werner Erhard, his connection to both Esalen and Scientology and the organizations, est>Landmark Education and spin-off 'life' and executive coaching cults he and his family continue to control.
I'm jumping around a bit, but one thing that should be looked into is what were/are called "The California Prison Experiments". Often referred to as a 'conspiracy theory', these projects were run out of Esalen and SRI in the 60's early 70's and utilized captive audiences to test protocols that included psychotropic drugs, hypnosis, gestalt ("attack therapy"). Erhard managed one of these projects at Lompoc State Prison. My brother-in-law supported another at the California Medical Facility at Vacaville; home of Charles Manson and other Manchurians.
Sir: this is incredible research. I watched Kay’s interview many times, and her veracity is impeccable. What astounded me is how on target she was years before anyone knew of any dots to connect. I had come across the Tavistock institute (from Nazi Germany to Britain then Canada and US) which had ties to the Laurel Canyon musicians’ lair which was connected to the military base. Your research is very good and in line with what I studied. After hearing Kay Griggs. Thank you and may the Father’s face shine upon you this coming year.
Very informative. Thank you. Was aware of all these players and some of the military connections (eg, Ron Hubbard/Naval Intelligence), but not the prevalence of Naval Intelligence. Steve Bannon is another (former?) Naval Intelligence officer. Condolences to you on your brother.
I'm imaging a group of Dr. Evils in a room, trying to figure the best way to control people, and coming to the conclusion that the best way is through cults. Rather than using bribery or fear, grip people's minds in a way that it seems only cults can do.
Also you can set up a network of cults, centered around what will seem to outsiders to just be silliness.
Only a couple of degrees of separation ... in 1981-82, I had a part-time job at the recreation center at Fort Huachuca, Sierra Vista, Arizona. I had gotten that job because my mom had remarried an engineer-spook in charge of satellite communications (GS-13). He had also arranged for my three summers working as a mountain forest fighter during my undergrad days.
Recently, I had come across Dr. Rima Laibow, whose husband at the same time I was at Fort Huachuca, Albert Stubblebine, was Commanding General of the Army Intelligence Unit stationed there, and was working on the psychic warfare around which the movie "The Men Who Stare At Goats" was based.
I am skeptical of psychic warfare, but increasingly believing Laibow's narrative about the planned cull.
Cheers to ya, try to have a happy holiday, and keep up the good fight next year.
One. Day. At. A. Time.
steve
p.s. Just wondering if you've have a chat with Whitney Webb? From a different angle, she is also head and shoulders above the majority in connecting dots.
I was at my local Barnes and Noble bookstore on Saturday. Walked by a section called self transformation. All the books were about witches, UFOs and sundries like this. Ripe material of mind control to be sure.
A conclusion I reached after digging into Esalen's history and actors is that very little, if any, of the 60's counter culture was organic. I used to call it, "I was just driving down the road when...," in reference to the many coincidental meetings that brought this crew together. And, it was not just Rockefeller funding, but NEH and NEA grants. Carl Rogers (an Esalen regular) administered research grants provided by the Human Ecology Fund (a CIA cutout).
Also, whether or not you buy into Dave McGowan's thesis about Laurel Canyon, his observations about how the TPTB and, particularly, MSM treated the 'counter culture' ring true. To his point, Esalen was lovingly documented from it early days by former Look magazine editor, George Leonard. Leonard was allegedly so taken with what he experienced in Big Sur that he partnered with Michael Murphy in the creation of self-help programs. This counter-culture was never 'counter' anything that counts.
Right on. Hadn't checked your blog I a while but happy to see you digging stuff like this out I remember her from way way back and always seemed to be buried which is understandable as it's too huge. Apropos of burying, I thought the whole FALSE MEMORY SYDROME FOUNDATION story of its founders Nick Bryant's covered very well in his podcast having various guests on who spent decades looking into it and the whole Satanic Panic thing was incredibly sick (as if you're lacking sickening stories to trail in 😀 Happy Few Years belated btw
Look up David McGowan (sp?) a kid who loved rock music and lived near Laurel Canyon, who started researching all of the highly famous musicians who began living there suddenly started uncovering a deep connection to the USA military complex. Jim Morrison’s dad an admiral on the ship in the false flag Tonkin Bay incident…Amazing interviews. John Lennon mentioned Tavistock institute in an interview as an aside before he was killed.
I came across a clip of Kay toward the end of this documentary. Have you watched it? Very interesting although I’m sure you already know majority of the info.
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Mathew, I remember seeing a video of you with Josh Guetzkow maybe a year ago. Josh has or had a forum called Cutting Through The Fog (CTTG), which seemed to be devoted to Miles W Mathis' research findings. CTTF has a site, but it looks like the members stopped posting there and moved to https://mathisianhaven.wordpress.com/ . When Josh started doing Covid research, he had progressively less involvement on the forum. He had banned me after he and a couple others suspected that I was a spook, I guess because I often tried to start discussions on topics I was interested in, so they seemed to think I was trying to divert them from having more productive discussions.
I followed Miles' science website since about 2011 and then about 2017 someone on a Miles forum said he also has another site on conspiracy at http://mileswmathis.com/updates.html , so I followed that ever since. Miles has found a lot of evidence of fakery in history, including in photos online. You mention the Sharon Tate murder by Manson & Co. Miles concluded that the murder was faked for the purpose of blackwashing the Hippie antiwar movement, making the public think Manson was a Hippie. It's interesting that you find Manson connected with Scientology etc. Do you think Miles could be right about the Tate murder being fake? He claims that the person who is said to be Sharon Tate's sister is actually Sharon with her hair dyed etc.
Miles also found evidence of a lot of fakery involved in the JFK and RFK assassinations, so he concluded that those murders were also faked. He said the same about O.J. Simpson's wife. And many others. He also concluded that World War II was largely faked and that the moon landings were too. I think he's wrong about the JFK and RFK assassinations and about World War II and the moon landings. I think there well may have been a lot of fakery in all of those events, or maybe especially in the photographic and other evidence for those events, but I know World War II was not totally faked. My Dad fought in Burma and China during that war and he and his buddies witnessed a lot of the atrocities.
Have you kept in touch with Josh? I forgot the name of his substack. Josh said he's Jewish and living in Israel. Miles finds a lot of evidence that almost all leading conspirators and members of the ruling class are Jewish, but I don't put much stock in his genealogical reasoning on that. I suppose you've probably read some of Miles' papers. If so, do you find anything worthwhile in any of them? Miles has also concluded that a lot of serial killings are faked and a lot of shootings too. I think he's probably right about some of them, like Sandy Hook, Las Vegas and the Floyd George killings. He also concludes that pedophilia and other sex scandals are fake, for the purpose of making the public distrust everyone. But you apparently have firsthand knowledge that some of it is real. I imagine the "deep state" probably does fake some or many of them, but that might be to make us think that they're all fake.
I was just curious about Sidney Gottlieb (MKUltra CIA, Dulles era) and Scott Gottlieb (Recent FDA, and maybe 100 boards of directors in Pharma, started in finance before getting his degree in medicine). Cannot find a connection, but a deep dive on Scott, like Mathew has done on this eugenics subject, may in fact produce a more intricate map with many surprises.
I must add that they killed George Washington, too, our first president. Quackery, Rockefeller medicine, long before J. D. Rockefeller himself, was the means of doing something, something at all, without any understanding of human health, or what promotes it, like the plandemonium.
Weird that this should show up today on one of the telegram channels I read from time to time. General Konstantin Petrov on cognitive warfare and Scientology involvement. 2004. Subtitled. Excerpt with a link to the complete session https://t.me/putingers_cat/8097
Where is whistle-blower Kay Griggs - Is she dead or alive? Why won't MSM help find her or tell her story?
Unresolved Disappearance
https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/4nexsx/where_is_whistle_blower_kay_griggs_is_she_dead_or/?onetap_auto=true
https://www.google.com/search?q=kay+griggs+obituary&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwj_xIPloLGDAxU9AUQIHdZtAKEQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=kay+griggs+obituary&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQDFAAWABgAGgAcAB4AIABAIgBAJIBAJgBAKoBC2d3cy13aXotaW1n&sclient=img&ei=bPSMZf_eL72CkPIP1tuBiAo&bih=537&biw=1195&rlz=1C1WNOO_enUS1007US1007&hl=en#imgrc=gSvTFu5g-gRHWM
Excellent!! Thank you.
I have the entire 10hour unedited interview, safely saved for future generations.
I discovered the Kay Griggs' interview several years ago. I recall having watched what I think was long version kinda obsessively over a few weeks time. Griggs' manner and her fantastical statements struck me as being very similar to allegations REPEATEDLY made by my sister regarding her Army Intelligence, Esalen-trained husband and his cohort. These encompassed descriptions of extreme physical and sexual abuse (ritualized) and threats of murder. I seemed to have been the only person to have believed her then, and now. I recall her husband, a 'family therapist' and Deputy Director of the California State Dept of Health and Human Services (and, later her children) telling me that my sister's claims were the result of a childhood abuse suffered in a series of foster homes. I have never been able to find any evidence that my much older sister was anything but a loved and somewhat pampered child (stable home, piano and voice lessons, a pony, etc.)
Mathew, I am wondering if you are familiar with the work of Jan Irvin regarding Esalen and the web of organizations connected to it. Irvin created a "brain map" documenting these connections. It may still be available online. Also, I will look for an interview Irvin did with Dr. Colin Ross, author of "The CIA Doctors".
My own research has focused on Werner Erhard, his connection to both Esalen and Scientology and the organizations, est>Landmark Education and spin-off 'life' and executive coaching cults he and his family continue to control.
I'm jumping around a bit, but one thing that should be looked into is what were/are called "The California Prison Experiments". Often referred to as a 'conspiracy theory', these projects were run out of Esalen and SRI in the 60's early 70's and utilized captive audiences to test protocols that included psychotropic drugs, hypnosis, gestalt ("attack therapy"). Erhard managed one of these projects at Lompoc State Prison. My brother-in-law supported another at the California Medical Facility at Vacaville; home of Charles Manson and other Manchurians.
I am very sorry about your brother!!!
Sir: this is incredible research. I watched Kay’s interview many times, and her veracity is impeccable. What astounded me is how on target she was years before anyone knew of any dots to connect. I had come across the Tavistock institute (from Nazi Germany to Britain then Canada and US) which had ties to the Laurel Canyon musicians’ lair which was connected to the military base. Your research is very good and in line with what I studied. After hearing Kay Griggs. Thank you and may the Father’s face shine upon you this coming year.
Very informative. Thank you. Was aware of all these players and some of the military connections (eg, Ron Hubbard/Naval Intelligence), but not the prevalence of Naval Intelligence. Steve Bannon is another (former?) Naval Intelligence officer. Condolences to you on your brother.
I'm imaging a group of Dr. Evils in a room, trying to figure the best way to control people, and coming to the conclusion that the best way is through cults. Rather than using bribery or fear, grip people's minds in a way that it seems only cults can do.
Also you can set up a network of cults, centered around what will seem to outsiders to just be silliness.
Hi Mathew.
Only a couple of degrees of separation ... in 1981-82, I had a part-time job at the recreation center at Fort Huachuca, Sierra Vista, Arizona. I had gotten that job because my mom had remarried an engineer-spook in charge of satellite communications (GS-13). He had also arranged for my three summers working as a mountain forest fighter during my undergrad days.
Recently, I had come across Dr. Rima Laibow, whose husband at the same time I was at Fort Huachuca, Albert Stubblebine, was Commanding General of the Army Intelligence Unit stationed there, and was working on the psychic warfare around which the movie "The Men Who Stare At Goats" was based.
I am skeptical of psychic warfare, but increasingly believing Laibow's narrative about the planned cull.
Cheers to ya, try to have a happy holiday, and keep up the good fight next year.
One. Day. At. A. Time.
steve
p.s. Just wondering if you've have a chat with Whitney Webb? From a different angle, she is also head and shoulders above the majority in connecting dots.
I was at my local Barnes and Noble bookstore on Saturday. Walked by a section called self transformation. All the books were about witches, UFOs and sundries like this. Ripe material of mind control to be sure.
A conclusion I reached after digging into Esalen's history and actors is that very little, if any, of the 60's counter culture was organic. I used to call it, "I was just driving down the road when...," in reference to the many coincidental meetings that brought this crew together. And, it was not just Rockefeller funding, but NEH and NEA grants. Carl Rogers (an Esalen regular) administered research grants provided by the Human Ecology Fund (a CIA cutout).
Also, whether or not you buy into Dave McGowan's thesis about Laurel Canyon, his observations about how the TPTB and, particularly, MSM treated the 'counter culture' ring true. To his point, Esalen was lovingly documented from it early days by former Look magazine editor, George Leonard. Leonard was allegedly so taken with what he experienced in Big Sur that he partnered with Michael Murphy in the creation of self-help programs. This counter-culture was never 'counter' anything that counts.
Right on. Hadn't checked your blog I a while but happy to see you digging stuff like this out I remember her from way way back and always seemed to be buried which is understandable as it's too huge. Apropos of burying, I thought the whole FALSE MEMORY SYDROME FOUNDATION story of its founders Nick Bryant's covered very well in his podcast having various guests on who spent decades looking into it and the whole Satanic Panic thing was incredibly sick (as if you're lacking sickening stories to trail in 😀 Happy Few Years belated btw
Look up David McGowan (sp?) a kid who loved rock music and lived near Laurel Canyon, who started researching all of the highly famous musicians who began living there suddenly started uncovering a deep connection to the USA military complex. Jim Morrison’s dad an admiral on the ship in the false flag Tonkin Bay incident…Amazing interviews. John Lennon mentioned Tavistock institute in an interview as an aside before he was killed.
https://rumble.com/v1lwx96-jfk-to-911-everything-is-a-rich-mans-trick.html
I came across a clip of Kay toward the end of this documentary. Have you watched it? Very interesting although I’m sure you already know majority of the info.
Mathew, I remember seeing a video of you with Josh Guetzkow maybe a year ago. Josh has or had a forum called Cutting Through The Fog (CTTG), which seemed to be devoted to Miles W Mathis' research findings. CTTF has a site, but it looks like the members stopped posting there and moved to https://mathisianhaven.wordpress.com/ . When Josh started doing Covid research, he had progressively less involvement on the forum. He had banned me after he and a couple others suspected that I was a spook, I guess because I often tried to start discussions on topics I was interested in, so they seemed to think I was trying to divert them from having more productive discussions.
I followed Miles' science website since about 2011 and then about 2017 someone on a Miles forum said he also has another site on conspiracy at http://mileswmathis.com/updates.html , so I followed that ever since. Miles has found a lot of evidence of fakery in history, including in photos online. You mention the Sharon Tate murder by Manson & Co. Miles concluded that the murder was faked for the purpose of blackwashing the Hippie antiwar movement, making the public think Manson was a Hippie. It's interesting that you find Manson connected with Scientology etc. Do you think Miles could be right about the Tate murder being fake? He claims that the person who is said to be Sharon Tate's sister is actually Sharon with her hair dyed etc.
Miles also found evidence of a lot of fakery involved in the JFK and RFK assassinations, so he concluded that those murders were also faked. He said the same about O.J. Simpson's wife. And many others. He also concluded that World War II was largely faked and that the moon landings were too. I think he's wrong about the JFK and RFK assassinations and about World War II and the moon landings. I think there well may have been a lot of fakery in all of those events, or maybe especially in the photographic and other evidence for those events, but I know World War II was not totally faked. My Dad fought in Burma and China during that war and he and his buddies witnessed a lot of the atrocities.
Have you kept in touch with Josh? I forgot the name of his substack. Josh said he's Jewish and living in Israel. Miles finds a lot of evidence that almost all leading conspirators and members of the ruling class are Jewish, but I don't put much stock in his genealogical reasoning on that. I suppose you've probably read some of Miles' papers. If so, do you find anything worthwhile in any of them? Miles has also concluded that a lot of serial killings are faked and a lot of shootings too. I think he's probably right about some of them, like Sandy Hook, Las Vegas and the Floyd George killings. He also concludes that pedophilia and other sex scandals are fake, for the purpose of making the public distrust everyone. But you apparently have firsthand knowledge that some of it is real. I imagine the "deep state" probably does fake some or many of them, but that might be to make us think that they're all fake.
Do you have any comments?
I was just curious about Sidney Gottlieb (MKUltra CIA, Dulles era) and Scott Gottlieb (Recent FDA, and maybe 100 boards of directors in Pharma, started in finance before getting his degree in medicine). Cannot find a connection, but a deep dive on Scott, like Mathew has done on this eugenics subject, may in fact produce a more intricate map with many surprises.
I must add that they killed George Washington, too, our first president. Quackery, Rockefeller medicine, long before J. D. Rockefeller himself, was the means of doing something, something at all, without any understanding of human health, or what promotes it, like the plandemonium.