""Do I want to win, or do I want to choose a future under a solid moral framework?"
"It's a false dichotomy, but a seductive one"
Fucking A Bro! The idea that these cretins can be so certain we'll lose if we just abandon our principles is so... tiresome. They don't know the future any better than we do, they just seek to justify their own moral bankruptcy. A bunch of damned Boromirs.
People can consciously or unconsciously be controlled opposition. CJ Hopkins' latest article is a great exposition of how the system works and how these distractors operate. So keep it up Mathew! Anyone who says it is wrong to call anyone to question, just because that person professes to be part of a movement, is either purposely nefarious or fails to understand that unity of a movement comes through internal, as well as external struggle. Both are equally important. Without internal struggle the movement will fail. I witnessed this during the Vietnam era. Misleaders and sellouts were constantly screaming "Stop the Infighting!"
It seems Steve wants to win using politics. Politics is not about data, is about the show. People are shallow.
The infighting is only deemed bad by those who instinctively choose the way of rousing the masses and try to steer them in one direction, using very bad arguments.
Those who dislike bad arguments tend to think too much and are told to stop the infighting. In reality, they are told to don't ruin the show. Don't stop the politics.
I don't understand what good can come from bullshiting the unthinking masses with slogans in order to enact a change that will protect them.
These people need to learn to stand up by themselves, to demand a change based on truth, to demand justice and reparations. That would be better for them. But lazyness gets in the way.
If people tie their security to one leader, the enemy only needs to attack the leader to destroy all semblance of security. A weak Unity is a self-imposed curse.
I have DM's from Steve asking for all of my "smoking gun" info BEFORE accepting the debate, all while stalling me over weeks. Basically, Steve was trying to do his best to determine if he had a chance of winning and then stopped replying.
Still trying to work out if its Captain Kirsch or Reefer Madness Bero who is the baddest actor in the Covid dissident game. Maybe the silver fox Malone will sneak in and take the cake by leading his followers into the promised second-generation mRNA Jibby Jab land thanks to these scary sounding Pfizer-mutated viral bioweapons that will soon be coming for every non-transhumanised immune system.
Whatever happens, however it ends, we still have actual concerns about people continuing to get the vaccine, vaccinated ticking time bombs walking around and people that have suddenly died. Donโt forget the injured, how horrible what they are living through. We need to stop injecting people and we need to give aid to the injured. This HAS to be the only priority RIGHT NOW. Let the arrows fly once we get vaccines paused and the injured cared for. All vaccinated should have a full health screen even if they donโt have side effects.
There is a big problem with some of the people that are most prominent in this battle for hearts and minds. Two people who I think should have been put out front more are George Fareed and Shankara Chetty. They both have great track records for treating covid and they don't have baggage when it comes to discrediting campaigns. The book you worked on was great but it was ignored and not promoted. I think it would be useful to get data from the doctors that Shankara trained so that we could see the shift from protocols that don't work to ones that do. I have tried to get people to read the Fareed/Tyson book. As soon as they see "thousands cured ,no one died", they declare it bullshit and treat me like I worship Trump. The shift from recommended protocols to ones that work would be a great tool for contrasting the two. More Fareed and Chetty!
There is no alt.media its Operation โTrust:โ The 100-Year-Old Psy-op Repackaged as MFM, in Anatoily Golitsynโs book, โNew Lies For Old,โ they talk of writing letters demanding resignation of opposition leaders knowing full well they would be ignored, sound familiar?
Truth and reason does matter, but we are also dealing with different groups of people that are in some form of hypnosis / mass formation.
It means that people do not listen to reason at all, deny reality. And are even able to kill their own children to obey the mass-belief (like for the mRNA-experiment). Personally I prefer to talk about hypnosis, because I have more experience with that. People need something to snap out of it. And weird things can wake up someone. And I think fear is keeping people in it.
So talking about side-effects makes people hold on harder to false ideas of safety. Like the Aztecs were (reported) doing human sacrifices to make the gods fight the Spanish. And when it did not work, they just did more killings. Fear makes people hold on to a belief, instead of dropping it.
The idea of being injected with a possible deadly substance is scary, so a certain group of people will belief harder that it is safe. The same for being responsible for injecting it or mandating it. And those are doctors and politicians. They do not want to think about the elephant in the room. It is too scary. Many of them do not even see it, because that is how the hypnotic mind works,
My approach is to start with a solution. And not with fear. We can deal with the mRNA and spike proteins now. By following well tested protocols (like Ivermectin) to reduce the side-effects. Fasting seems to help to reduce the damaged cells. And if more people come out, we can develop even better protocols. Doctors on http://flccc.net are working on several treatments already.
We also need to get our human rights back. I think all can agree, whatever they belief. Doctors and scientists and victims need to be able to speak out freely. And we should never give corrupt companies and their political puppets any power over us. Certainly not over our own body, because then things go really bad very quickly. Humor seems to work well to make people aware of that last part.
I just want to thank you for doing what you do. I rarely comment or post on anyone's substack but I feel it's my duty to thank those of you who take the time to write. I appreciate everyone who is involved in shining light on the plandemic schemes. More and more I see the battle is over our minds. I question everything now. Thank you for sharing and putting yourself out there.
I haven't figured out the Kirsch message and have quit trying, he strikes me as a wealthy dude with an ego as big as his bank account.
I like the message of Robert Kennedy. All vaccines are dangerous. I think a big problem is that people are still saying "I am pro-vaccine, just not pro-covid vaccine". That message must change. Until we have medical freedom there is no Life, Liberty and pursuit of Happiness.
Do I have a list of the anti-vaxxers I follow? No. But I was red pilled 30 years ago when I asked the neonatologist that was caring for my child one simple question. "What is the medical reason for the Hepatitis B vaccine being given the first day of life, when the opportunity for infection occurs 15 years later?" He admitted, he did not have his own children vaccinated with the Hepatitis B shot. I am thankful he was man enough to tell the truth. It confirmed all the research I had done with help from Barbara Loe Fisher and the NVIC. BTW, who has interviewed her? She has been in the trenches for 40 years, it would seem like some of these Johnny Come Latelys would care what she has to say.
Why did I question the Dr. to start with? My child was born premature 538 grams (1.3 lbs) and they wanted to inject the same amount of "vaccine" as a normal 8lb full term baby would receive. How can that be safe or recommended protocol I thought, when every other thing they are doing in this NICU is based on weight. The care was extraordinarily precise, except for vaccine recommendations this just didn't make any sense. But I refused to act out of fear and my wife and I took responsibility for our child because I knew if there was an adverse reaction we would be responsible, not the medical team. It takes courage and a marginally operational BS detector. I also credit another person, God. He did not design and plant his greatest creation and then say, "Darn it, I forgot about immunity."
The one thing that the c-19 shot has done is strip the emperor of his clothes for a good portion of the population. Maybe now when a parent takes their child to the roulette table (aka well baby checkup) to have their 15th shot out of 70 plus shots in the childhood vaccine schedule and their child starts screaming uncontrollably for 10 hours, maybe, just maybe they will go HMMMMM I wonder if there is a connection.
There have been so many good studies and good work on the dangers of vaccines already, but nobody believes their doctors are captured by pharma at least there is a growing understanding that the regulatory agencies are captured.
I guess that's enough for now, thanks Mathew for your work.
Maybe you should rename the "Chaos Agents" series to "People that think and act differently than I do, did something once I didn't like, and therefore are probably are swimming in pools of DoD money." Holy frig, you have a bone to pick with nearly everybody. I thought the pool of people that meant well in this world was small, but if it's as small as you think it is, than it's time to hang up our hats, go buy a house in the mountains and forget about the world.
I like your data work. I like your unusual point of view. I don't want to spend 1,000 hours trying to understand why someone's numbers are crap and I'm happy to have guys like you explain it to me. But the "Woe is me, everyone is awful" thing needs a break, every once in a while, maybe. Even if it's true.
An effective public health intervention should have an enormous benefit-to-risk ratio. According to the terms of this debate, the "vaccine" is a success if the kill ratio is less than one to one? The mRNA vaccines were a success even if they killed less than one young athlete for every 80-year-old who was saved? Steve's first big mistake was agreeing to debate this question in the first place.
Covid-19 has killed about 1.1 million people in the US, according to Worldometers. About 500,000 of these deaths occurred in 2020, before the vaxxes were rolled out; the other 600K during the two years since then. If deaths had continued occurring during 2021 and 2022 at the same rate as 2020, there would be roughly another half million dead by now. (I'm just extrapolating linearly, I know this is a ridiculous over-simplification.)
The most credible estimates for excess deaths caused by the vaxx are in the range of 200K to 400K. So at first glance, it looks like Team Vaxx is winning the one-for-one death sweepstakes.
Another confounding factor is the fact that many "sudden death" victims have had both covid-19 AND the vaxx. Which one caused the death? Maybe both.
Many in the MFM camp have challenge that idea that covid-19 ever caused 1.1 million deaths. On the contrary, many of those deaths were from other causes such as advanced cancer and heart disease, and falsely coded as covid-19 deaths. Or they were false positives on the PCR test, and they died from some other virus. Or they died because of hospital protocols involving ventilation and remdesivir. Jonathan Couey also thinks that the hospitals were withholding antibiotics that would have been standard-of-care for pneumonia in earlier years.
If he's going to win, Kirsch is going to have to challenge the official figures for covid-19 deaths. But will he ever do that? So far as I know, he hasn't yet.
""Do I want to win, or do I want to choose a future under a solid moral framework?"
"It's a false dichotomy, but a seductive one"
Fucking A Bro! The idea that these cretins can be so certain we'll lose if we just abandon our principles is so... tiresome. They don't know the future any better than we do, they just seek to justify their own moral bankruptcy. A bunch of damned Boromirs.
People can consciously or unconsciously be controlled opposition. CJ Hopkins' latest article is a great exposition of how the system works and how these distractors operate. So keep it up Mathew! Anyone who says it is wrong to call anyone to question, just because that person professes to be part of a movement, is either purposely nefarious or fails to understand that unity of a movement comes through internal, as well as external struggle. Both are equally important. Without internal struggle the movement will fail. I witnessed this during the Vietnam era. Misleaders and sellouts were constantly screaming "Stop the Infighting!"
You are too good, Mathew.
It seems Steve wants to win using politics. Politics is not about data, is about the show. People are shallow.
The infighting is only deemed bad by those who instinctively choose the way of rousing the masses and try to steer them in one direction, using very bad arguments.
Those who dislike bad arguments tend to think too much and are told to stop the infighting. In reality, they are told to don't ruin the show. Don't stop the politics.
I don't understand what good can come from bullshiting the unthinking masses with slogans in order to enact a change that will protect them.
These people need to learn to stand up by themselves, to demand a change based on truth, to demand justice and reparations. That would be better for them. But lazyness gets in the way.
If people tie their security to one leader, the enemy only needs to attack the leader to destroy all semblance of security. A weak Unity is a self-imposed curse.
I have DM's from Steve asking for all of my "smoking gun" info BEFORE accepting the debate, all while stalling me over weeks. Basically, Steve was trying to do his best to determine if he had a chance of winning and then stopped replying.
I have the receipts.
The guy is all talk.
Still trying to work out if its Captain Kirsch or Reefer Madness Bero who is the baddest actor in the Covid dissident game. Maybe the silver fox Malone will sneak in and take the cake by leading his followers into the promised second-generation mRNA Jibby Jab land thanks to these scary sounding Pfizer-mutated viral bioweapons that will soon be coming for every non-transhumanised immune system.
Whatever happens, however it ends, we still have actual concerns about people continuing to get the vaccine, vaccinated ticking time bombs walking around and people that have suddenly died. Donโt forget the injured, how horrible what they are living through. We need to stop injecting people and we need to give aid to the injured. This HAS to be the only priority RIGHT NOW. Let the arrows fly once we get vaccines paused and the injured cared for. All vaccinated should have a full health screen even if they donโt have side effects.
There is a big problem with some of the people that are most prominent in this battle for hearts and minds. Two people who I think should have been put out front more are George Fareed and Shankara Chetty. They both have great track records for treating covid and they don't have baggage when it comes to discrediting campaigns. The book you worked on was great but it was ignored and not promoted. I think it would be useful to get data from the doctors that Shankara trained so that we could see the shift from protocols that don't work to ones that do. I have tried to get people to read the Fareed/Tyson book. As soon as they see "thousands cured ,no one died", they declare it bullshit and treat me like I worship Trump. The shift from recommended protocols to ones that work would be a great tool for contrasting the two. More Fareed and Chetty!
There is no alt.media its Operation โTrust:โ The 100-Year-Old Psy-op Repackaged as MFM, in Anatoily Golitsynโs book, โNew Lies For Old,โ they talk of writing letters demanding resignation of opposition leaders knowing full well they would be ignored, sound familiar?
Truth and reason does matter, but we are also dealing with different groups of people that are in some form of hypnosis / mass formation.
It means that people do not listen to reason at all, deny reality. And are even able to kill their own children to obey the mass-belief (like for the mRNA-experiment). Personally I prefer to talk about hypnosis, because I have more experience with that. People need something to snap out of it. And weird things can wake up someone. And I think fear is keeping people in it.
So talking about side-effects makes people hold on harder to false ideas of safety. Like the Aztecs were (reported) doing human sacrifices to make the gods fight the Spanish. And when it did not work, they just did more killings. Fear makes people hold on to a belief, instead of dropping it.
The idea of being injected with a possible deadly substance is scary, so a certain group of people will belief harder that it is safe. The same for being responsible for injecting it or mandating it. And those are doctors and politicians. They do not want to think about the elephant in the room. It is too scary. Many of them do not even see it, because that is how the hypnotic mind works,
My approach is to start with a solution. And not with fear. We can deal with the mRNA and spike proteins now. By following well tested protocols (like Ivermectin) to reduce the side-effects. Fasting seems to help to reduce the damaged cells. And if more people come out, we can develop even better protocols. Doctors on http://flccc.net are working on several treatments already.
We also need to get our human rights back. I think all can agree, whatever they belief. Doctors and scientists and victims need to be able to speak out freely. And we should never give corrupt companies and their political puppets any power over us. Certainly not over our own body, because then things go really bad very quickly. Humor seems to work well to make people aware of that last part.
I just want to thank you for doing what you do. I rarely comment or post on anyone's substack but I feel it's my duty to thank those of you who take the time to write. I appreciate everyone who is involved in shining light on the plandemic schemes. More and more I see the battle is over our minds. I question everything now. Thank you for sharing and putting yourself out there.
Sorry to be spamming your Stack but since you've been talking with Reinette Senum, I thought you might be interested in reading what I dug up on Simone Gold: https://wholistic.substack.com/p/aflds-scam-goldcare-health-and-wellness
I'm not convinced yet she's controlled opposition but the date noted in the article title does raise an eyebrow with me.
I haven't figured out the Kirsch message and have quit trying, he strikes me as a wealthy dude with an ego as big as his bank account.
I like the message of Robert Kennedy. All vaccines are dangerous. I think a big problem is that people are still saying "I am pro-vaccine, just not pro-covid vaccine". That message must change. Until we have medical freedom there is no Life, Liberty and pursuit of Happiness.
Do I have a list of the anti-vaxxers I follow? No. But I was red pilled 30 years ago when I asked the neonatologist that was caring for my child one simple question. "What is the medical reason for the Hepatitis B vaccine being given the first day of life, when the opportunity for infection occurs 15 years later?" He admitted, he did not have his own children vaccinated with the Hepatitis B shot. I am thankful he was man enough to tell the truth. It confirmed all the research I had done with help from Barbara Loe Fisher and the NVIC. BTW, who has interviewed her? She has been in the trenches for 40 years, it would seem like some of these Johnny Come Latelys would care what she has to say.
Why did I question the Dr. to start with? My child was born premature 538 grams (1.3 lbs) and they wanted to inject the same amount of "vaccine" as a normal 8lb full term baby would receive. How can that be safe or recommended protocol I thought, when every other thing they are doing in this NICU is based on weight. The care was extraordinarily precise, except for vaccine recommendations this just didn't make any sense. But I refused to act out of fear and my wife and I took responsibility for our child because I knew if there was an adverse reaction we would be responsible, not the medical team. It takes courage and a marginally operational BS detector. I also credit another person, God. He did not design and plant his greatest creation and then say, "Darn it, I forgot about immunity."
The one thing that the c-19 shot has done is strip the emperor of his clothes for a good portion of the population. Maybe now when a parent takes their child to the roulette table (aka well baby checkup) to have their 15th shot out of 70 plus shots in the childhood vaccine schedule and their child starts screaming uncontrollably for 10 hours, maybe, just maybe they will go HMMMMM I wonder if there is a connection.
There have been so many good studies and good work on the dangers of vaccines already, but nobody believes their doctors are captured by pharma at least there is a growing understanding that the regulatory agencies are captured.
I guess that's enough for now, thanks Mathew for your work.
Maybe you should rename the "Chaos Agents" series to "People that think and act differently than I do, did something once I didn't like, and therefore are probably are swimming in pools of DoD money." Holy frig, you have a bone to pick with nearly everybody. I thought the pool of people that meant well in this world was small, but if it's as small as you think it is, than it's time to hang up our hats, go buy a house in the mountains and forget about the world.
I like your data work. I like your unusual point of view. I don't want to spend 1,000 hours trying to understand why someone's numbers are crap and I'm happy to have guys like you explain it to me. But the "Woe is me, everyone is awful" thing needs a break, every once in a while, maybe. Even if it's true.
An effective public health intervention should have an enormous benefit-to-risk ratio. According to the terms of this debate, the "vaccine" is a success if the kill ratio is less than one to one? The mRNA vaccines were a success even if they killed less than one young athlete for every 80-year-old who was saved? Steve's first big mistake was agreeing to debate this question in the first place.
Covid-19 has killed about 1.1 million people in the US, according to Worldometers. About 500,000 of these deaths occurred in 2020, before the vaxxes were rolled out; the other 600K during the two years since then. If deaths had continued occurring during 2021 and 2022 at the same rate as 2020, there would be roughly another half million dead by now. (I'm just extrapolating linearly, I know this is a ridiculous over-simplification.)
The most credible estimates for excess deaths caused by the vaxx are in the range of 200K to 400K. So at first glance, it looks like Team Vaxx is winning the one-for-one death sweepstakes.
Another confounding factor is the fact that many "sudden death" victims have had both covid-19 AND the vaxx. Which one caused the death? Maybe both.
Many in the MFM camp have challenge that idea that covid-19 ever caused 1.1 million deaths. On the contrary, many of those deaths were from other causes such as advanced cancer and heart disease, and falsely coded as covid-19 deaths. Or they were false positives on the PCR test, and they died from some other virus. Or they died because of hospital protocols involving ventilation and remdesivir. Jonathan Couey also thinks that the hospitals were withholding antibiotics that would have been standard-of-care for pneumonia in earlier years.
If he's going to win, Kirsch is going to have to challenge the official figures for covid-19 deaths. But will he ever do that? So far as I know, he hasn't yet.
What will it do for "our side" if Kirsch loses???
I am amazed that anyone gives that bully Steve Kirsch a moment's influence. Malone is no better.
They fancy themselves to be 'the tip of the spear' of resistance!
I laugh at them. So should you.
He probably thinks he can't lose. Which means he will probably lose....