1/2 Hi Mathew, Vitamin D is by far the most important early treatment for COVID-19. In the longer term we must boost most people's circulating 25-hydroxyvitamin D (as measured in blood tests) to 50ng/ml (125nmol/L) or more, since levels lower than this cause weakened innate and adaptive immune responses, and increase the risk of hyper-inflammatory dysregulated immune responses which drive severe COVID-19, sepsis, Kawasaki disease and Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome. Typical unsupplemented levels are 5 to 25ng/ml.
Most people cannot imagine that lack of vitamin D3 - sitting on supermarket shelves - is the decisive factor which causes such disease severity and so viral shedding that we have an R0 well over 1.0 and so a pandemic with millions of deaths. This includes especially most physicians and immunologists - but they should read the research. Long ago they should have heeded the 2008 call by 48 physicians and researchers (some are both) for 40 to 60ng/ml to be regarded as a proper, healthy, 25-hydroxyvitamin D level: https://www.grassrootshealth.net/project/our-scientists/ .
There is very little vitamin D in food or multivitamins. UV-B exposure of unprotected skin (not through glass or sunscreen) can produce plenty of vitamin D3, but this is not available all year round, raises the risk of skin cancer, and is less effective for those with dark skin. Without proper D3 supplementation or recent significant UV-B exposure, most people's 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels are between 5 and 25ng/ml - 1/10th to 1/2 of what their immune system needs to function properly.
Most doctors accept outdated official recommendations that 20 or perhaps 30ng/ml is sufficient, and some still think that for an average weight adult, 0.01mg (400IU) D3 a day is sufficient to meet a person's needs. For 70kg 154lb bodyweight, 0.125mg 5000IU D3 a day will get most people's 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels safely to 50ng/ml or more after several months. This is a gram every 22 years. Pharma grade D3 costs USD$2.50 a gram ex-factory, in 1kg lots. There are only a handful of D3 factories in the world, none of them owned by multinational pharmaceutical companies. Most D3 is made (for a lower price, with less refining) for poultry and pigs who live their lives indoors. If the big pharmaceutical companies could devise and patent a compound even a fraction as effective as D3, they would sell it for hundreds or thousands of dollars per monthly dosage.
D3 is hydroxylated in the liver over a period of days into 25-hydroxyvitamin D, which goes into circulation and diffuses into all tissues. This is what all immune cells need for their autocrine (inside the cell) and paracrine (to nearby cells) signaling systems, which are crucial to each cell's ability to respond to its changing circumstances. These systems are activated by particular conditions (different for each cell type) and hydroxylate 25-hydroxyvitamin D a second time to become 1,25-dihydroxyvitamin D, which strongly activates vitamin D receptor molecules in these cells. The activated receptor turns up the transcription of dozens of genes, and turns it down for dozens of other genes, in ways which are specific to each type of cell. These signaling systems are long-evolved, flexible, powerful, methods by which cells change their behaviour according to particular conditions they detect.
Vitamin D based autocrine and paracrine signaling has nothing to do with the one hormonal function of the vitamin D compounds - a very low level of circulating 1,25-hydroxyvitamin D, produced and regulated by the kidneys, as part of a larger feedback loop with the parathyroid hormone, to regulate calcium and bone metabolism. All doctors know of this system, and most have some idea that the immune system needs vitamin D. However, very few understand - of have heard of - vitamin D based autocrine and paracrine signaling, in part because the vitamin D researchers have not explained it well. Please see my explanation, which cites the original research over ten years ago by Martin Hewison et al.: https://vitamindstopscovid.info/02-autocrine/ .
Here are the most important research articles from those cited at "What every MD, immunologist, virologist and epidemiologist should know about vitamin D and the immune system": https://vitamindstopscovid.info/05-mds/ . Please read the research yourself. Don't take my word for anything - I am an electronic technician and computer programmer.
In 2014, researchers in Boston MA, (Quraishi et al. link and graph at https://vitamindstopscovid.info/05-mds/#fig01) analysed the relationship between pre-operative 25-hydroxyvitmin D levels and post-operative infections: surgery site infections and general hospital-acquired infections. The relationships were similar: with 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels of 50ng/ml or more: 2.5%. With 18ng/ml - which is a typical average value for people who do not supplement D3 or get much UV-B skin exposure - the risks for both types of infection rose to 25%. This can only be explained by weakened innate and adaptive immune responses to bacterial pathogens caused by insufficient 25-hydroxyvitamin D.
Low 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels cause the same weaknesses in innate and adaptive immune responses to viruses, including SARS-CoV-2. See the risks of severe COVID-19 according to Venegas-Cedillo et al 2021 and 3 other studies, plus the risks of Kawasaki disease (2014) graphed as a function of 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels: https://vitamindstopscovid.info/05-mds/#fig02 . Most doctors and all governments have been clueless about this. With the exception of a few doctors and governments (such as of the Indian state of Uttar Pradesh, who use ivermectin with great success) people have not been supported with vitamin D and other nutrients and have been prevented from getting early treatment of any kind. They were told to get vaccinated, isolate if infected, and to seek hospital treatment if hypoxia sets in. Very few of these millions of people needed to die. Vitamin D and other early treatments would have prevented most of the transmission, harm and death.
The sooner these graphs and links the articles are plastered all over newspapers and MSM websites, the better. Then everyone will know the truth. This is not the pandemic of the unvaccinated. It is the pandemic of the vitamin D deficient and of those who have not been able to receive early treatment.
2/2 Because many MDs do not understand the need for 50ng/ml 25-hydroxyvitamin D, and how long it takes to attain this even with healthy D3 intakes such as 5000IU a day, some doctors think it suffices to use such intakes as an early treatment - for instance Dr Peter McCullough. This is far too slow.
Worse still, some doctors think that immune cells depend on the very low level of circulating, hormonal, 1,25-dihydroxyvitamin D, so instead of using D3, they prescribe tiny quantities of calcitriol (the pharma name for 1,25-hydroxyvitamin D). Paul Marik, Pierre Kory et al. at the FLCCC recently switched to this from D3 and calcifediol (below). This can upset calcium-bone metabolism and does not give immune cells the 25-hydroxyvitamin D they need.
The most important early treatment for COVID-19 is repletion of 25-hydroxyvitamin D so the immune system can work well. This is not just to boost its antiviral activities but also to reduce the risk of hyper-inflammatory immune dysregulation which drives severe COVID-19, sepsis, Kawasaki disease, MIS-C etc. Please see McGregor et al. 2020 (link and summary: https://aminotheory.com/cv19/icu/#2020-McGregor ) who elucidated the molecular-biology of autocrine signaling in Th1 regulatory lymphocytes from the lungs of hospitalised COVID-19 patients. This is Nobel Prize level research which should be known to very physician and immunologist in the world. (I just bought two recent immunology textbooks - 1500 pages total, and neither mentioned vitamin D in their indexes.)
Activated Th1 lymphocytes' start-up program is to emit a pro-inflammatory mix of cytokines (signaling molecules between different types of immune cell). When one of these cells detects a high level of a particular complement protein, this activates its vitamin D based autocrine signaling system, which hydroxylates 25-hydroxyvitamin D - which should be present in and supplied to the cells as it is used - to make 1,25-hydroxyvitamin D. This binds with the vitamin D receptor and the bound complex migrates to the nucleus where it completely changes the cell's behaviour, causing it to transition to its anti-inflammatory shutdown program. This is what should happen - and Th1 cells from healthy controls did exactly this. Th1 cells from the lungs of hospital patients were stuck indefinitely in their pro-inflammatory startup program. Each such cell detected the complement protein, which caused the cell to start its vitamin D based autocrine signaling process, but this did not work _solely_ because there was not enough 25-hydroxyvitamin D.
Whether in the early (viral replication) stages of COVID-19 or fighting for their lives in the later cytokine storm phase (in which viral replication is insignificant and the problem is the immune system's dysregulated hyperinflammatory attack on its own cells) most COVID-19 sufferers today are trying to fight the disease with only a fraction of the 25-hydroxyvitamin D their immune system needs to function properly.
Bolus (large dose, all at once) D3 is one way of attaining 50ng/ml or more 25-hydroxyvitamin D. For instance 10mg 400,000IU for 70kg 154lb bodyweight will attain this over a few days - the delay being due to the need for hydroxylation in the liver.
The best approach is a single oral dose of 0.014mg per kg bodyweight of calcifediol - the pharma name for 25-hydroxyvitamin D. See New Jersey retired Professor of Medicine Sunil Wimalawansa: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/sunilwimalawansa_multisystem-inflammatory-syndrome-mis-activity-6815294839769436160-99qJ/ This oral 25-hydroxyvitamin D goes straight into circulation, raising levels to what the immune system needs in 4 hours. This is about 1mg calcifediol, single dose, for 70kg bodyweight - which is roughly equivalent to, but much faster acting, than a modest 4mg 160,000IU D3 bolus dose.
This rapid boosting is shown in a Faes Farma (Spain) patent for calcifediol capsules: https://vitamindstopscovid.info/05-mds/#fig03 . This graph is for a single oral dose of 0.532mg calcifediol, the same as was used by Castillo et al. 2020: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0960076020302764 with hospitalised COVID-19 patients, all of whom received hydroxychloroquine (of questionable value so late in their disease progression) and the antibiotic azithromycin. This simple, safe, treatment reduced ICU admissions from 50% to 2% and deaths from 8% to zero.
Okay Robin, see you have been immersing yourself in self-directed health (along with scores of other engineers - who will be the ones who save healthcare, btw).
Have you traveled down the highly oxidative properties of seed oils? The concept of Torpor as induced by excessive, constant ingestion of linoleic acid? The fact that these highly oxidative molecules become part of our cellular walls, where they can exert continuous oxidative pressure on our immune system?
If you are already metabolically damaged, you will need to augment your immune system. Or, you can remove oxidative products such that your immune system devotes it's energies to what it was designed to do - combat cancer, viruses and bacteria, etc.
Excessive omega-6 fatty acids and insufficient omega-3s is a huge problem for many reasons. Here is not the place to discuss it, except to note that it probably takes months to change the balance in the plasma membranes of all the body's cells, so omega-3 supplementation is not useful as an early (that is, urgent - hours or days) treatment for COVID-19. The mix of these in the plasma membranes alters the mechanical properties of lipid rafts which affect the mechanics of transmembrane proteins, and so subtly alter the behaviour of neurons . . .
The overall biology of vitamin D and the immune system is not particularly complex, though of course the low-level details are. It is not complex compared to many other areas of medicine or to the stuff we routinely deal with in electronics and software development. I guess that half the current level of illness and so medical effort would disappear if everyone had sufficient vitamin D. One day we will be able to take compounds like those exuded by helminths to downmodulate our inflammatory immune responses. This will help even more than vitamin D with the plethora of inflammatory disorders. Our ancestors evolved overly strong immune responses to combat multiple helminths downmodulating those responses with presumably multiple compounds. Now the helminths are gone, for many good reasons, we have, in general, with a great deal of individual genetic variation, potentially self-destructively over-strong inflammation responses. Most vitamin D researchers don't know this. I am keen to bring together these researchers and those who work with helminths and their compounds (one found, patented and synthesized so far - Miri Blank et al.) and those who work with numerous auto-immune diseases: https://vitamindstopscovid.info/06-adv/ Nutrition for Immune System Health (NISH) discussion list: https://nish.groups.io
Most MDs and immunologists (every immunologist I know of) are tragically, perplexingly and egregiously (and often wilfully) avoidant of learning the things they need to know about vitamin D in the immune system, the key items of which are linked to from my https://vitamindstopscovid.info/05-mds/ . This problem must be solved because the public relies on MDs getting this right, no matter how many engineering types and other autodidacts figure out how much D3 we need to take.
This is the real problem. It was always exceedingly complex and perplexing, including for the MDs and researchers (some are both) I discuss nutrition with and collaborate with in trying to raise awareness. Some have been trying to tackling this cluelessness and avoidance for decades. In the pandemic, this problem has become even more extreme with the vaccine tribe vs the unvaccinated, all the politics, censorship etc. This is a huge and rapidly growing groupthink nightmare. I hope to document these recent problems to some extent in my https://nutritionmatters.substack.com before tackling the long-standing extreme aversion to learning about vitamin D which has afflicted MDs for decades. Part of the problem is the messy state of much of the now sprawling and proliferating vitamin D research literature.
Anecdotal: When this started, I put my mother and myself on a vitamin D supplement, and my mother gets a glutathione nebulizer every other day (she has COPD), and neither of us has had a cold in the last 2 years. We usually get 1 cold a year.
Nice twist of the facts.. some sunscreens, like many body products, include known and suspected carcinogens.. the toxic part is the corp greed and policy loopholes surrounding chemicals.
In fact most widely used chemicals have NEVER had basic testing to identify their risks. The global database for safety was pulled offline by Univ Calif who ran it but Wayback has the links. These corps are regularly negligent, if not criminal, like J&J with asbestos in baby powder. A handful of true consumer groups highlight the ugly truth a vast web of media & front groups twist the reality into ridiculous claims to discredit the work.
"If an industrial chemical is allowed by law to be released into the environment, most people assume that it must have been tested and evaluated for its potential risks. Unfortunately, this is simply not true...
For most of the important industrial chemicals in U.S. commerce, government lacks the information to draw any scientifically based conclusion about the degree of risk--or lack of risk--that a chemical may pose when used. For every chemical in the database, Scorecard tells you whether or not the information needed to assess chemical risk is available. If it isn't, no one can accurately claim the chemical is "safe." "
I don't doubt it. But why is that relevant? Something to do with getting vitamin D?
As an aside, supposing that exposure to solar radiation causes skin cancer, and that sunscreen (alleged toxicity aside) is not completely protective against the sun, and that people who wear sunscreen are more likely to expose their skin to the sun... then we would reasonably expect that sunscreen use is at least correlated with skin cancer.
This is an important point. We're talking about quite a range of actors here. But there is a structure to the situation, and those in control are, without any doubt, up to no good.
We all know Hanlon's Razor, right? "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by incompetence." It's a fair dictum, but any such explanation must really be adequate. Fauci, for example, fails this test spectacularly. I like to counter with what I call Hanlon's Shave Cream: "the appearance of incompetence lends plausible deniability to malice behind the scenes." And then, Hanlon's Aftershave: "incompetence on the part of some gives cover to the malice of others".
Indeed. Hanlon's razor is far oversubsribed at some levels. Or, at least, some sociopathic levers are indistinguishable from malice in effect, and should be treated that way as a mechanism for gatekeeping the most precious realms of societal trust.
Thanks for the link to this excellent video. I would add two things. Firstly, vaccines generate billions of dollars in profit and the manufacturers are shielded from liability. So there is an enormous economic impetus to promote them and to disparage, deny or suppress numerous less expensive, safer, more effective and faster to deploy alternatives. Secondly, pretty much everyone thinks that this is a great, really hard to solve, global disaster, with experts working night and day to devise a solution. So they *expect* all the potential solutions to be expensive, costly in other ways, and to come from high-tech companies. Lacking understanding of the immune system's complete dependence on 50ng/ml or more 25-hydroxyvitamin D, and the enormous extent and variety of harm which results from most people having half or less of this, they cannot imagine that any relatively simple solution could work better than vaccines.
These two processes, together with intense groupthink conformity and inertia in the medical profession (there are some good reasons for doctor's thinking not being easily swayed) are major problems in medicine and so for all humanity. People expect, and are often happy to get, expensive, pseudo-sophisticated, ostensibly well *targeted* drugs when they would be better of with some other treatment.
For instance, the use of anti-inflammatory drugs is ubiquitous in dozens of inflammatory disorders - both generics like prednisone and patented drugs which generate tens of billions of dollars profit in the USA alone. All of these reduce inflammation, but they also weaken innate and adaptive responses. The problem with inflammation is both lack of helminths and low 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels. Proper intakes of D3 will restore 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels which reduces inflammation and restores full, strong, innate and adaptive responses. This reduces or eliminates the need for anti-inflammatory, especially, for some people, if 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels are raised well above 50ng/ml while monitoring calcium and parathyroid hormone levels to make sure there are no problems with these. See the Coimbra protocol and similar approaches https://vitamindstopscovid.info/06-adv/ .
Thanks for the "Community is a Technology" idea. I'm going to use it if I may, as it really does seem that when anything breaches the "150" mark the Authoritarians in the room start building momentum, ending where the world is now. Yes maybe some "Freedom tech" can support linkages between communities, as long as we don't end up with a "World Council of Small Communities" :)
I am on the other side of the planet, so I can't say for sure what to make of it, but I did some light research into Tommy Waters, since his reaction as presented here and at hawaiinewsnow seems hyperbolic. As of 10/21/2021 3:10EST, the minutes and agenda for that 10/18 meeting have not been posted (https://www.honolulu.gov/council ; https://hnldoc.ehawaii.gov/hnldoc/browse/agendas), nor has the council given a press release for the event, nor have they released video of the council meeting (https://www.honolulucitycouncil.tv/). I am genuinely interested in what he actually said, since it's clear that he's being edited down to this one comment, and for whatever reason the news selects that one phrase to be what highlights the entire session. If the idea is that it's dangerous to tell people that they can take vitamins and thus become more resistant to, even overcome, a viral infection, I want to see how he reasons, and I hope he releases his own statements so that his own constituency, and others, can get it.
Waters on his own site cites support from a "cross-section of supporters including: caregivers, academics, environmental professionals, teachers, entrepreneurs, attorneys, and retirees." His press release also then goes on to add that "environmental stewards comprised a large percentage of donors, which along with the endorsement of the Sierra Club has demonstrated strong support among the conservation community." (https://www.tommy-waters.com/tommy_waters_campaign_donations_demonstrate_increasing_support). Although his own website shows him with his children, it doesn't mention his wife, lawyer Emily Kawashima Waters, nor is she pictured or shown anywhere on it: she's not even part of the "Tommy Waters Story" (https://www.tommy-waters.com/the_tommy_waters_story), although Tommy's in-laws are. Apparently, James Kawashima is a judge there for O'ahu First District Court and has been a practicing lawyer for more than forty years, with two of his children also practicing law there. I find it odd —but this is just me, now— that a man running for political office who will set himself up as a family figure makes no mention of his marriage or relationship to the mother of the children he puts prominently on the splash for his site.
Maybe all of this is completely irrelevant. But it's all publicly available information I found just doing casual web searches. I have never found it irresponsible and dangerous for anyone to take vitamins, open windows, or improve their health as ways to become more resilient in life, so I want to understand what Tommy Waters is about, why he thinks that way. What I see is someone who has been a lawyer for a while, narrowly lost twice and then squeeked in to a council position, who now serves as chair for that city council, and, for whatever reason, doesn't want to be seen or associated with the mother of his children, whom he does want to be seen and associated with. 🤷
You seem to be trying to make sense of the comment in a vacuum. Tommy Waters is a member of the professional class, so I would expect that he considers anything that could contribute to vaccine hesitancy dangerous. To be clear "vaccine hesitancy" is any position short "100% of the human population must be vaccinated against COVID-19 at all costs."
Correct. That is what he states in the prepared statement linked in the materials I linked to in my response on this same level: "While I certainly appreciate open discussion around the City’s vaccination policy and compliance with said policy, I would be remiss if I didn’t express my concern with utilizing public hearings of the City Council for purposes that may promote vaccine hesitancy."
"I understand that the informational briefing will feature Dr. Robert Malone. Dr. Malone has
made numerous dubious claims regarding the COVLD-19 vaccines, including:
I. That the FDA has not granted ftill approval of the Pfizer/BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine. (1)
2. That the COVID-19 vaccine is toxic via spike proteins. (2,3)
3. That the vaccine should be recommended only for those at highest risk from COVID- 19. Everyone else should be wary and those under 18 should be excluded entirely. (4)
"While I certainly appreciate open discussion around the City’s vaccination policy and
compliance with said policy, I would be remiss if I didn’t express my concern with utilizing
public hearings of the City Council for purposes that may promote vaccine hesitancy.
"The COVID- 19 vaccines continue to be safe and effective, and are our best hope to emerging from the pandemic in the spirit of revitalization and recovery. ..."
I notice the curious argument given in (3) —the "fact check" from reuters.com— for why Spike is *not* cytotoxic:
<I>“So far, there is no scientific evidence available that suggests spike proteins created in our bodies from the COVID-19 vaccines are toxic or damaging our organs,” experts at the Meedan Digital Health Lab (meedan.com/digital-health-lab) said. (here)
Research shows that spike proteins (here) remain stuck to the cell surface around the injection site and do not travel to other parts of the body via the bloodstream, they added. The 1% of the vaccine that does reach the bloodstream is destroyed by liver enzymes.
Pharmacologist Sabina Vohra-Miller (www.vohramillerfoundation.ca/) produced a Twitter infographic explaining how spike proteins from the vaccine are harmless (here).
Anna Durbin, Professor of International Health at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, told Reuters via email that the spike itself is not cytotoxic.
“When you are vaccinated, your cells use the mRNA (or DNA from adenovirus vector) to make spike protein in your cells. Your cells “show” your immune system the spike protein and pieces of the spike protein. The spike protein does not kill those cells, it is not cytotoxic,” Durbin explained.
The T cells, which make up a part of the immune system, then see the spike protein and remember it so that if there is exposure to the virus later, they can recognize it and kill the infected cells, Durbin said.</i>
. . . So, they acknowledge these things. They acknowledge the mRNA will prompt your body to make Spike. They acknowledge that Spike *remains stuck to the cell surface* of those cells who make Spike. The cell then "shows" the immune system that Spike is present, at which point the immune system will learn to "kill the infected cells", the cells that are producing Spike as a result of viral infection. They therefore claim that Spike is not what kills cells, so it is not "cytotoxic."
But then they don't point out what happens to those cells that the mRNA commandeered to produce those initial Spikes. Does the immune system let them continue living? Does the immune system do *absolutely nothing* about those cells that produce a substance the body identifies as *foreign intruder* or *not who we are* enough so that they become adapted to "kill the infected cells?"
No. We know the answer to this. The immune system learns that there are cells producing something they should not be producing, and it is *the immune system* that then kills those cells. So, sure, it wasn't Spike that killed the Spike-producing cells, it was the immune system itself performing its function.
This is the kind of argument Waters relies on to call you, and the rest of us, dangerous and irresponsible. But it is understandable that it's the kind of argument a lawyer prefers to accept.
If, that is, he did in fact think it through at all?
I have to go, but I did find the video for the entire meeting:
Okay, Waters' response to Mathew's presentation (grouped under "Presentation from Safe Covid Help") begins at 1:32:43 in the video I linked above. My transcription of his statement:
"Um, I don't have a question for this testifier, although I just want to make clear that what this person is testifying to, and for that matter Dr. Armstrong or even Dr. Malone, is not something that the Council as a body is endorsing, is supporting, or in any way legitimizing. I actually think what this person is testifying to is actually dangerous and irresponsible, and I just want to put that out for the record. And I'm curious if Dr. Dara {unsure?} is still on the line, just to get his perspective from a local doctor who's here working from Hawaii."
So, there wasn't any explanation for what's dangerous and irresponsible about the testimony, although from the prepared response to Dr. Malone's presence the danger is probably due to "vaccine hesitancy."
Council member Heidi Tsuneyoshi gets it in her question and response to Mathew's presentation (around 1:35:00):
"Thank you so much, I appreciate that. Currently, we have most of our messaging and our media education messaging just around the vaccinations, so I just find this empowering and educational in that it provides other options for individuals to empower themselves and address their health and wellness. So thank you so much for your presentation, and I look forward to looking through it all on my own time."
We can take care of ourselves. We can empower ourselves. And we can educate ourselves on our own time and address our health and wellness as individuals.
"These data show that S1 antigen production after the initial vaccination can be detected by day 1 and is present beyond the site of injection and the associated regional lymph nodes." from: "Circulating Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) Vaccine Antigen Detected in the Plasma of mRNA-1273 Vaccine Recipients" https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab465/6279075
"In Japan, upon request under the Freedom of Information Act, the licensing authority published previously inaccessible animal test data on the mRNA vaccine from Pfizer/BioNTech. The data show that the mRNA nanoparticles do not remain at the point of injection in the muscle tissue, as claimed by the manufacturers, but in many cases reach the organs in high concentrations" https://freewestmedia.com/2021/06/04/pfizer-biontech-animal-trials-show-dangerous-concentrations-of-nano-particles-in-organs/
So you avoided mentioning Ivermectin and HCQ to improve your palatability, and reduce psychotic cognitive dissonance. But you got branded as a dangerous purveyor of misinformation anyhow. So maybe you might as well speak the full truth?
It would be interesting, though, to see an RCT comparing outcomes with vitamins, nutritional supplements & oral + nasal hygiene alone, vs. those interventions combined with Ivermectin, HCQ, fluvoxamine and so forth.
"So maybe you might as well speak the full truth?"
If you are offered an invitation into a dinner party, but told not to broach a sensitive topic, you generally do not broach that topic.
Of course, that doesn't mean I'm not still talking about this under the guise of (ahem) "The Chloroquine Wars".
"It would be interesting, though, to see an RCT comparing outcomes with vitamins, nutritional supplements & oral + nasal hygiene alone, vs. those interventions combined with Ivermectin, HCQ, fluvoxamine and so forth."
That would have been interesting early on. Why that wasn't part of the pandemic response on day 1...hmmm...but at this point, it would be immoral to deny anyone the better medicines at random.
By dangerous, I think they mean dangerous to pharma's deep pockets. Also dangerous because as more and more people finally realize they've been lied to about early treatment (etc., etc., etc.), politicians are going to have a lot of 'splainin' to do. The media no doubt plan to make sure that never comes to pass.
There is overwhelming evidence that the immune system cells need a serum threshold of 45- 50ng/mL in order to be competent (for T cells to spring into action without going rogue, for antiviral peptides to be produced in lung tissue, etc etc). Yet the great majority of the population have a serum level of 20-30ng/mL, with 30 being (tragically) considered sufficient for bone health. Big Pharma had no interest in promoting a vitamin freely available through much of the year and one they cannot license. They would, of course, rather patent an expensive "magic bullet" which will enrich company directors and shareholders. This letter (https://vitamindforall.org/letter.html) was written almost a year ago, yet physicians continue unaware of the latest research on vit D, and many people will remain stuck in the hyper inflammatory state of their immune system.
This is exactly what we need. Dr. Malone is the World's Most Interesting Man type, now we need a hugely dangerous-sexy type. We'll have all the cool points and can conquer the public with our image, if not our wisdom.
Oh, wait, seems Fauci is the sexiest man alive, dang, we're doomed.
I spent a lot of time, midway in 2020, trying to convince our ELECTED officials and/or political appointees to acknowledge truths FROM the PCR inventor & others (all PRIMARY SOURCES-- says this librarian). NONE had interest in entertaining any idea besides their Mockingbird narratives, nor did they reapond! I believe Waters was inc, as the rep for HKai schools. I'm convinced they ARE part of the problem ($), or just dum dums. Grrr. CivilBeat included! Today I see an article how owner Omidyar may be complicit in some dark things...So KEEP PUSHING FOLKS. Soon their fortress gate WILL fall!
As a Honolulu County resident, I apologize for Councilmember Tommy Waters comments about you, Dr. Armstrong and Dr. Malone, which proved beyond a shadow of a doubt his inexcusable ignorance and unfitness to hold a position of responsibility.
1/2 Hi Mathew, Vitamin D is by far the most important early treatment for COVID-19. In the longer term we must boost most people's circulating 25-hydroxyvitamin D (as measured in blood tests) to 50ng/ml (125nmol/L) or more, since levels lower than this cause weakened innate and adaptive immune responses, and increase the risk of hyper-inflammatory dysregulated immune responses which drive severe COVID-19, sepsis, Kawasaki disease and Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome. Typical unsupplemented levels are 5 to 25ng/ml.
Most people cannot imagine that lack of vitamin D3 - sitting on supermarket shelves - is the decisive factor which causes such disease severity and so viral shedding that we have an R0 well over 1.0 and so a pandemic with millions of deaths. This includes especially most physicians and immunologists - but they should read the research. Long ago they should have heeded the 2008 call by 48 physicians and researchers (some are both) for 40 to 60ng/ml to be regarded as a proper, healthy, 25-hydroxyvitamin D level: https://www.grassrootshealth.net/project/our-scientists/ .
There is very little vitamin D in food or multivitamins. UV-B exposure of unprotected skin (not through glass or sunscreen) can produce plenty of vitamin D3, but this is not available all year round, raises the risk of skin cancer, and is less effective for those with dark skin. Without proper D3 supplementation or recent significant UV-B exposure, most people's 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels are between 5 and 25ng/ml - 1/10th to 1/2 of what their immune system needs to function properly.
Most doctors accept outdated official recommendations that 20 or perhaps 30ng/ml is sufficient, and some still think that for an average weight adult, 0.01mg (400IU) D3 a day is sufficient to meet a person's needs. For 70kg 154lb bodyweight, 0.125mg 5000IU D3 a day will get most people's 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels safely to 50ng/ml or more after several months. This is a gram every 22 years. Pharma grade D3 costs USD$2.50 a gram ex-factory, in 1kg lots. There are only a handful of D3 factories in the world, none of them owned by multinational pharmaceutical companies. Most D3 is made (for a lower price, with less refining) for poultry and pigs who live their lives indoors. If the big pharmaceutical companies could devise and patent a compound even a fraction as effective as D3, they would sell it for hundreds or thousands of dollars per monthly dosage.
D3 is hydroxylated in the liver over a period of days into 25-hydroxyvitamin D, which goes into circulation and diffuses into all tissues. This is what all immune cells need for their autocrine (inside the cell) and paracrine (to nearby cells) signaling systems, which are crucial to each cell's ability to respond to its changing circumstances. These systems are activated by particular conditions (different for each cell type) and hydroxylate 25-hydroxyvitamin D a second time to become 1,25-dihydroxyvitamin D, which strongly activates vitamin D receptor molecules in these cells. The activated receptor turns up the transcription of dozens of genes, and turns it down for dozens of other genes, in ways which are specific to each type of cell. These signaling systems are long-evolved, flexible, powerful, methods by which cells change their behaviour according to particular conditions they detect.
Vitamin D based autocrine and paracrine signaling has nothing to do with the one hormonal function of the vitamin D compounds - a very low level of circulating 1,25-hydroxyvitamin D, produced and regulated by the kidneys, as part of a larger feedback loop with the parathyroid hormone, to regulate calcium and bone metabolism. All doctors know of this system, and most have some idea that the immune system needs vitamin D. However, very few understand - of have heard of - vitamin D based autocrine and paracrine signaling, in part because the vitamin D researchers have not explained it well. Please see my explanation, which cites the original research over ten years ago by Martin Hewison et al.: https://vitamindstopscovid.info/02-autocrine/ .
Here are the most important research articles from those cited at "What every MD, immunologist, virologist and epidemiologist should know about vitamin D and the immune system": https://vitamindstopscovid.info/05-mds/ . Please read the research yourself. Don't take my word for anything - I am an electronic technician and computer programmer.
In 2014, researchers in Boston MA, (Quraishi et al. link and graph at https://vitamindstopscovid.info/05-mds/#fig01) analysed the relationship between pre-operative 25-hydroxyvitmin D levels and post-operative infections: surgery site infections and general hospital-acquired infections. The relationships were similar: with 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels of 50ng/ml or more: 2.5%. With 18ng/ml - which is a typical average value for people who do not supplement D3 or get much UV-B skin exposure - the risks for both types of infection rose to 25%. This can only be explained by weakened innate and adaptive immune responses to bacterial pathogens caused by insufficient 25-hydroxyvitamin D.
Low 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels cause the same weaknesses in innate and adaptive immune responses to viruses, including SARS-CoV-2. See the risks of severe COVID-19 according to Venegas-Cedillo et al 2021 and 3 other studies, plus the risks of Kawasaki disease (2014) graphed as a function of 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels: https://vitamindstopscovid.info/05-mds/#fig02 . Most doctors and all governments have been clueless about this. With the exception of a few doctors and governments (such as of the Indian state of Uttar Pradesh, who use ivermectin with great success) people have not been supported with vitamin D and other nutrients and have been prevented from getting early treatment of any kind. They were told to get vaccinated, isolate if infected, and to seek hospital treatment if hypoxia sets in. Very few of these millions of people needed to die. Vitamin D and other early treatments would have prevented most of the transmission, harm and death.
The sooner these graphs and links the articles are plastered all over newspapers and MSM websites, the better. Then everyone will know the truth. This is not the pandemic of the unvaccinated. It is the pandemic of the vitamin D deficient and of those who have not been able to receive early treatment.
2/2 Because many MDs do not understand the need for 50ng/ml 25-hydroxyvitamin D, and how long it takes to attain this even with healthy D3 intakes such as 5000IU a day, some doctors think it suffices to use such intakes as an early treatment - for instance Dr Peter McCullough. This is far too slow.
Worse still, some doctors think that immune cells depend on the very low level of circulating, hormonal, 1,25-dihydroxyvitamin D, so instead of using D3, they prescribe tiny quantities of calcitriol (the pharma name for 1,25-hydroxyvitamin D). Paul Marik, Pierre Kory et al. at the FLCCC recently switched to this from D3 and calcifediol (below). This can upset calcium-bone metabolism and does not give immune cells the 25-hydroxyvitamin D they need.
The most important early treatment for COVID-19 is repletion of 25-hydroxyvitamin D so the immune system can work well. This is not just to boost its antiviral activities but also to reduce the risk of hyper-inflammatory immune dysregulation which drives severe COVID-19, sepsis, Kawasaki disease, MIS-C etc. Please see McGregor et al. 2020 (link and summary: https://aminotheory.com/cv19/icu/#2020-McGregor ) who elucidated the molecular-biology of autocrine signaling in Th1 regulatory lymphocytes from the lungs of hospitalised COVID-19 patients. This is Nobel Prize level research which should be known to very physician and immunologist in the world. (I just bought two recent immunology textbooks - 1500 pages total, and neither mentioned vitamin D in their indexes.)
Activated Th1 lymphocytes' start-up program is to emit a pro-inflammatory mix of cytokines (signaling molecules between different types of immune cell). When one of these cells detects a high level of a particular complement protein, this activates its vitamin D based autocrine signaling system, which hydroxylates 25-hydroxyvitamin D - which should be present in and supplied to the cells as it is used - to make 1,25-hydroxyvitamin D. This binds with the vitamin D receptor and the bound complex migrates to the nucleus where it completely changes the cell's behaviour, causing it to transition to its anti-inflammatory shutdown program. This is what should happen - and Th1 cells from healthy controls did exactly this. Th1 cells from the lungs of hospital patients were stuck indefinitely in their pro-inflammatory startup program. Each such cell detected the complement protein, which caused the cell to start its vitamin D based autocrine signaling process, but this did not work _solely_ because there was not enough 25-hydroxyvitamin D.
Whether in the early (viral replication) stages of COVID-19 or fighting for their lives in the later cytokine storm phase (in which viral replication is insignificant and the problem is the immune system's dysregulated hyperinflammatory attack on its own cells) most COVID-19 sufferers today are trying to fight the disease with only a fraction of the 25-hydroxyvitamin D their immune system needs to function properly.
Bolus (large dose, all at once) D3 is one way of attaining 50ng/ml or more 25-hydroxyvitamin D. For instance 10mg 400,000IU for 70kg 154lb bodyweight will attain this over a few days - the delay being due to the need for hydroxylation in the liver.
The best approach is a single oral dose of 0.014mg per kg bodyweight of calcifediol - the pharma name for 25-hydroxyvitamin D. See New Jersey retired Professor of Medicine Sunil Wimalawansa: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/sunilwimalawansa_multisystem-inflammatory-syndrome-mis-activity-6815294839769436160-99qJ/ This oral 25-hydroxyvitamin D goes straight into circulation, raising levels to what the immune system needs in 4 hours. This is about 1mg calcifediol, single dose, for 70kg bodyweight - which is roughly equivalent to, but much faster acting, than a modest 4mg 160,000IU D3 bolus dose.
This rapid boosting is shown in a Faes Farma (Spain) patent for calcifediol capsules: https://vitamindstopscovid.info/05-mds/#fig03 . This graph is for a single oral dose of 0.532mg calcifediol, the same as was used by Castillo et al. 2020: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0960076020302764 with hospitalised COVID-19 patients, all of whom received hydroxychloroquine (of questionable value so late in their disease progression) and the antibiotic azithromycin. This simple, safe, treatment reduced ICU admissions from 50% to 2% and deaths from 8% to zero.
Okay Robin, see you have been immersing yourself in self-directed health (along with scores of other engineers - who will be the ones who save healthcare, btw).
Have you traveled down the highly oxidative properties of seed oils? The concept of Torpor as induced by excessive, constant ingestion of linoleic acid? The fact that these highly oxidative molecules become part of our cellular walls, where they can exert continuous oxidative pressure on our immune system?
If you are already metabolically damaged, you will need to augment your immune system. Or, you can remove oxidative products such that your immune system devotes it's energies to what it was designed to do - combat cancer, viruses and bacteria, etc.
Excessive omega-6 fatty acids and insufficient omega-3s is a huge problem for many reasons. Here is not the place to discuss it, except to note that it probably takes months to change the balance in the plasma membranes of all the body's cells, so omega-3 supplementation is not useful as an early (that is, urgent - hours or days) treatment for COVID-19. The mix of these in the plasma membranes alters the mechanical properties of lipid rafts which affect the mechanics of transmembrane proteins, and so subtly alter the behaviour of neurons . . .
The overall biology of vitamin D and the immune system is not particularly complex, though of course the low-level details are. It is not complex compared to many other areas of medicine or to the stuff we routinely deal with in electronics and software development. I guess that half the current level of illness and so medical effort would disappear if everyone had sufficient vitamin D. One day we will be able to take compounds like those exuded by helminths to downmodulate our inflammatory immune responses. This will help even more than vitamin D with the plethora of inflammatory disorders. Our ancestors evolved overly strong immune responses to combat multiple helminths downmodulating those responses with presumably multiple compounds. Now the helminths are gone, for many good reasons, we have, in general, with a great deal of individual genetic variation, potentially self-destructively over-strong inflammation responses. Most vitamin D researchers don't know this. I am keen to bring together these researchers and those who work with helminths and their compounds (one found, patented and synthesized so far - Miri Blank et al.) and those who work with numerous auto-immune diseases: https://vitamindstopscovid.info/06-adv/ Nutrition for Immune System Health (NISH) discussion list: https://nish.groups.io
Most MDs and immunologists (every immunologist I know of) are tragically, perplexingly and egregiously (and often wilfully) avoidant of learning the things they need to know about vitamin D in the immune system, the key items of which are linked to from my https://vitamindstopscovid.info/05-mds/ . This problem must be solved because the public relies on MDs getting this right, no matter how many engineering types and other autodidacts figure out how much D3 we need to take.
This is the real problem. It was always exceedingly complex and perplexing, including for the MDs and researchers (some are both) I discuss nutrition with and collaborate with in trying to raise awareness. Some have been trying to tackling this cluelessness and avoidance for decades. In the pandemic, this problem has become even more extreme with the vaccine tribe vs the unvaccinated, all the politics, censorship etc. This is a huge and rapidly growing groupthink nightmare. I hope to document these recent problems to some extent in my https://nutritionmatters.substack.com before tackling the long-standing extreme aversion to learning about vitamin D which has afflicted MDs for decades. Part of the problem is the messy state of much of the now sprawling and proliferating vitamin D research literature.
Anecdotal: When this started, I put my mother and myself on a vitamin D supplement, and my mother gets a glutathione nebulizer every other day (she has COPD), and neither of us has had a cold in the last 2 years. We usually get 1 cold a year.
Sunscreen raises the risk of skin cancer: https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/78-sunscreens-cancer-causing-ingredients/
Nice twist of the facts.. some sunscreens, like many body products, include known and suspected carcinogens.. the toxic part is the corp greed and policy loopholes surrounding chemicals.
In fact most widely used chemicals have NEVER had basic testing to identify their risks. The global database for safety was pulled offline by Univ Calif who ran it but Wayback has the links. These corps are regularly negligent, if not criminal, like J&J with asbestos in baby powder. A handful of true consumer groups highlight the ugly truth a vast web of media & front groups twist the reality into ridiculous claims to discredit the work.
https://web.archive.org/web/20120917041002/http://scorecard.goodguide.com/chemical-profiles/chems-profile-descriptions.tcl#safety_assessment
"If an industrial chemical is allowed by law to be released into the environment, most people assume that it must have been tested and evaluated for its potential risks. Unfortunately, this is simply not true...
For most of the important industrial chemicals in U.S. commerce, government lacks the information to draw any scientifically based conclusion about the degree of risk--or lack of risk--that a chemical may pose when used. For every chemical in the database, Scorecard tells you whether or not the information needed to assess chemical risk is available. If it isn't, no one can accurately claim the chemical is "safe." "
Twist of the facts? Uh huh.
Apologies if my take was incorrect but it appeared the comment was designed to ridicule the findings.
I don't doubt it. But why is that relevant? Something to do with getting vitamin D?
As an aside, supposing that exposure to solar radiation causes skin cancer, and that sunscreen (alleged toxicity aside) is not completely protective against the sun, and that people who wear sunscreen are more likely to expose their skin to the sun... then we would reasonably expect that sunscreen use is at least correlated with skin cancer.
I find this ignoring and stifling of early treatments and prevention supplements the hardest proof of sinister motives.
Sinister motives for some, and proof of total ignorance in others, and proof of sociopathy in yet others.
This is an important point. We're talking about quite a range of actors here. But there is a structure to the situation, and those in control are, without any doubt, up to no good.
We all know Hanlon's Razor, right? "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by incompetence." It's a fair dictum, but any such explanation must really be adequate. Fauci, for example, fails this test spectacularly. I like to counter with what I call Hanlon's Shave Cream: "the appearance of incompetence lends plausible deniability to malice behind the scenes." And then, Hanlon's Aftershave: "incompetence on the part of some gives cover to the malice of others".
Indeed. Hanlon's razor is far oversubsribed at some levels. Or, at least, some sociopathic levers are indistinguishable from malice in effect, and should be treated that way as a mechanism for gatekeeping the most precious realms of societal trust.
What do you make of this (commenting on a one year old thread!)?
https://sagehana.substack.com/p/us-federal-court-2021-stop-selling
Here's a little clip from Dr Malone that makes it crystal clear:
https://rumble.com/vnwrwk-dr.-robert-malone-on-anthony-fauci-bill-gates-and-the-covid-war-games.html
Thanks for the link to this excellent video. I would add two things. Firstly, vaccines generate billions of dollars in profit and the manufacturers are shielded from liability. So there is an enormous economic impetus to promote them and to disparage, deny or suppress numerous less expensive, safer, more effective and faster to deploy alternatives. Secondly, pretty much everyone thinks that this is a great, really hard to solve, global disaster, with experts working night and day to devise a solution. So they *expect* all the potential solutions to be expensive, costly in other ways, and to come from high-tech companies. Lacking understanding of the immune system's complete dependence on 50ng/ml or more 25-hydroxyvitamin D, and the enormous extent and variety of harm which results from most people having half or less of this, they cannot imagine that any relatively simple solution could work better than vaccines.
These two processes, together with intense groupthink conformity and inertia in the medical profession (there are some good reasons for doctor's thinking not being easily swayed) are major problems in medicine and so for all humanity. People expect, and are often happy to get, expensive, pseudo-sophisticated, ostensibly well *targeted* drugs when they would be better of with some other treatment.
For instance, the use of anti-inflammatory drugs is ubiquitous in dozens of inflammatory disorders - both generics like prednisone and patented drugs which generate tens of billions of dollars profit in the USA alone. All of these reduce inflammation, but they also weaken innate and adaptive responses. The problem with inflammation is both lack of helminths and low 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels. Proper intakes of D3 will restore 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels which reduces inflammation and restores full, strong, innate and adaptive responses. This reduces or eliminates the need for anti-inflammatory, especially, for some people, if 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels are raised well above 50ng/ml while monitoring calcium and parathyroid hormone levels to make sure there are no problems with these. See the Coimbra protocol and similar approaches https://vitamindstopscovid.info/06-adv/ .
Is there a vitamin for menticide?
Joomie! You had me laughing coffee out of my nose with this one !🤣
Thanks for the "Community is a Technology" idea. I'm going to use it if I may, as it really does seem that when anything breaches the "150" mark the Authoritarians in the room start building momentum, ending where the world is now. Yes maybe some "Freedom tech" can support linkages between communities, as long as we don't end up with a "World Council of Small Communities" :)
I dig "world council of small communities". There may be a couple of levels to that organizational structure. I do think we'll get there.
Yep, the less structure, the better. Havel reminds us...
I am on the other side of the planet, so I can't say for sure what to make of it, but I did some light research into Tommy Waters, since his reaction as presented here and at hawaiinewsnow seems hyperbolic. As of 10/21/2021 3:10EST, the minutes and agenda for that 10/18 meeting have not been posted (https://www.honolulu.gov/council ; https://hnldoc.ehawaii.gov/hnldoc/browse/agendas), nor has the council given a press release for the event, nor have they released video of the council meeting (https://www.honolulucitycouncil.tv/). I am genuinely interested in what he actually said, since it's clear that he's being edited down to this one comment, and for whatever reason the news selects that one phrase to be what highlights the entire session. If the idea is that it's dangerous to tell people that they can take vitamins and thus become more resistant to, even overcome, a viral infection, I want to see how he reasons, and I hope he releases his own statements so that his own constituency, and others, can get it.
Tommy Waters was recently elected in a special election (https://bigislandnow.com/2019/01/29/proclamation-issued-for-special-election-of-district-iv-honolulu-city-council/) that came about from a contested and very close election (18,358 for Ozawa the incumbent, 18,336 for Waters) (https://ballotpedia.org/Tommy_Waters). Some portions of the oral argument before the Hawaii Supreme Court election are available (https://www.hawaiipublicradio.org/government-politics/2019-01-18/hawaii-supreme-court-hears-oral-arguments-in-waters-vs-ozawa-election-challenge). But it looks like the two have had a previous very close and contested election in 2014 (https://www.slideshare.net/civilbeat/waters-nago-ruling). So, maybe there's a longer story here about the local political scene, probably getting very personal. This is, at least, alluded to in the "dirty politics" accusation Ozawa makes about things (https://www.kitv.com/story/39858472/dirty-politics-city-council-candidate-trevor-ozawa-considering-legal-action-after-supreme-court-ruling).
Waters on his own site cites support from a "cross-section of supporters including: caregivers, academics, environmental professionals, teachers, entrepreneurs, attorneys, and retirees." His press release also then goes on to add that "environmental stewards comprised a large percentage of donors, which along with the endorsement of the Sierra Club has demonstrated strong support among the conservation community." (https://www.tommy-waters.com/tommy_waters_campaign_donations_demonstrate_increasing_support). Although his own website shows him with his children, it doesn't mention his wife, lawyer Emily Kawashima Waters, nor is she pictured or shown anywhere on it: she's not even part of the "Tommy Waters Story" (https://www.tommy-waters.com/the_tommy_waters_story), although Tommy's in-laws are. Apparently, James Kawashima is a judge there for O'ahu First District Court and has been a practicing lawyer for more than forty years, with two of his children also practicing law there. I find it odd —but this is just me, now— that a man running for political office who will set himself up as a family figure makes no mention of his marriage or relationship to the mother of the children he puts prominently on the splash for his site.
Maybe all of this is completely irrelevant. But it's all publicly available information I found just doing casual web searches. I have never found it irresponsible and dangerous for anyone to take vitamins, open windows, or improve their health as ways to become more resilient in life, so I want to understand what Tommy Waters is about, why he thinks that way. What I see is someone who has been a lawyer for a while, narrowly lost twice and then squeeked in to a council position, who now serves as chair for that city council, and, for whatever reason, doesn't want to be seen or associated with the mother of his children, whom he does want to be seen and associated with. 🤷
You seem to be trying to make sense of the comment in a vacuum. Tommy Waters is a member of the professional class, so I would expect that he considers anything that could contribute to vaccine hesitancy dangerous. To be clear "vaccine hesitancy" is any position short "100% of the human population must be vaccinated against COVID-19 at all costs."
Correct. That is what he states in the prepared statement linked in the materials I linked to in my response on this same level: "While I certainly appreciate open discussion around the City’s vaccination policy and compliance with said policy, I would be remiss if I didn’t express my concern with utilizing public hearings of the City Council for purposes that may promote vaccine hesitancy."
Ah, I was wrong and looking at the wrong material. Here is the agenda and the testimonies:
https://hnldoc.ehawaii.gov/hnldoc/agenda/browse/135
Waters submitted a statement here:
https://hnldoc.ehawaii.gov/hnldoc/document-download?id=12269
"I understand that the informational briefing will feature Dr. Robert Malone. Dr. Malone has
made numerous dubious claims regarding the COVLD-19 vaccines, including:
I. That the FDA has not granted ftill approval of the Pfizer/BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine. (1)
2. That the COVID-19 vaccine is toxic via spike proteins. (2,3)
3. That the vaccine should be recommended only for those at highest risk from COVID- 19. Everyone else should be wary and those under 18 should be excluded entirely. (4)
"While I certainly appreciate open discussion around the City’s vaccination policy and
compliance with said policy, I would be remiss if I didn’t express my concern with utilizing
public hearings of the City Council for purposes that may promote vaccine hesitancy.
"The COVID- 19 vaccines continue to be safe and effective, and are our best hope to emerging from the pandemic in the spirit of revitalization and recovery. ..."
His citations in this statement are here:
(1) https://usawatchdog.com/fda-lied-vax-not-approved-still-experimental/
(2) https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/08/robert-malone-vaccine-inventor-skeptic/619734/
(3) https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-vaccine-cytotoxic/fact-check-covid-19-vaccines-are-not-cytotoxic-idUSL2N2O01XP
(4) https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/08/robert-malone-vaccine-inventor-skeptic/619734/ [this is the same citation from (2)]
I notice the curious argument given in (3) —the "fact check" from reuters.com— for why Spike is *not* cytotoxic:
<I>“So far, there is no scientific evidence available that suggests spike proteins created in our bodies from the COVID-19 vaccines are toxic or damaging our organs,” experts at the Meedan Digital Health Lab (meedan.com/digital-health-lab) said. (here)
Research shows that spike proteins (here) remain stuck to the cell surface around the injection site and do not travel to other parts of the body via the bloodstream, they added. The 1% of the vaccine that does reach the bloodstream is destroyed by liver enzymes.
Pharmacologist Sabina Vohra-Miller (www.vohramillerfoundation.ca/) produced a Twitter infographic explaining how spike proteins from the vaccine are harmless (here).
Anna Durbin, Professor of International Health at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, told Reuters via email that the spike itself is not cytotoxic.
“When you are vaccinated, your cells use the mRNA (or DNA from adenovirus vector) to make spike protein in your cells. Your cells “show” your immune system the spike protein and pieces of the spike protein. The spike protein does not kill those cells, it is not cytotoxic,” Durbin explained.
The T cells, which make up a part of the immune system, then see the spike protein and remember it so that if there is exposure to the virus later, they can recognize it and kill the infected cells, Durbin said.</i>
. . . So, they acknowledge these things. They acknowledge the mRNA will prompt your body to make Spike. They acknowledge that Spike *remains stuck to the cell surface* of those cells who make Spike. The cell then "shows" the immune system that Spike is present, at which point the immune system will learn to "kill the infected cells", the cells that are producing Spike as a result of viral infection. They therefore claim that Spike is not what kills cells, so it is not "cytotoxic."
But then they don't point out what happens to those cells that the mRNA commandeered to produce those initial Spikes. Does the immune system let them continue living? Does the immune system do *absolutely nothing* about those cells that produce a substance the body identifies as *foreign intruder* or *not who we are* enough so that they become adapted to "kill the infected cells?"
No. We know the answer to this. The immune system learns that there are cells producing something they should not be producing, and it is *the immune system* that then kills those cells. So, sure, it wasn't Spike that killed the Spike-producing cells, it was the immune system itself performing its function.
This is the kind of argument Waters relies on to call you, and the rest of us, dangerous and irresponsible. But it is understandable that it's the kind of argument a lawyer prefers to accept.
If, that is, he did in fact think it through at all?
I have to go, but I did find the video for the entire meeting:
https://honolulu.granicus.com/player/clip/1699?view_id=3&redirect=true
We will be able to see what Waters did say. I'll have to come back to this.
Okay, Waters' response to Mathew's presentation (grouped under "Presentation from Safe Covid Help") begins at 1:32:43 in the video I linked above. My transcription of his statement:
"Um, I don't have a question for this testifier, although I just want to make clear that what this person is testifying to, and for that matter Dr. Armstrong or even Dr. Malone, is not something that the Council as a body is endorsing, is supporting, or in any way legitimizing. I actually think what this person is testifying to is actually dangerous and irresponsible, and I just want to put that out for the record. And I'm curious if Dr. Dara {unsure?} is still on the line, just to get his perspective from a local doctor who's here working from Hawaii."
So, there wasn't any explanation for what's dangerous and irresponsible about the testimony, although from the prepared response to Dr. Malone's presence the danger is probably due to "vaccine hesitancy."
Council member Heidi Tsuneyoshi gets it in her question and response to Mathew's presentation (around 1:35:00):
"Thank you so much, I appreciate that. Currently, we have most of our messaging and our media education messaging just around the vaccinations, so I just find this empowering and educational in that it provides other options for individuals to empower themselves and address their health and wellness. So thank you so much for your presentation, and I look forward to looking through it all on my own time."
We can take care of ourselves. We can empower ourselves. And we can educate ourselves on our own time and address our health and wellness as individuals.
"These data show that S1 antigen production after the initial vaccination can be detected by day 1 and is present beyond the site of injection and the associated regional lymph nodes." from: "Circulating Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) Vaccine Antigen Detected in the Plasma of mRNA-1273 Vaccine Recipients" https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab465/6279075
"In Japan, upon request under the Freedom of Information Act, the licensing authority published previously inaccessible animal test data on the mRNA vaccine from Pfizer/BioNTech. The data show that the mRNA nanoparticles do not remain at the point of injection in the muscle tissue, as claimed by the manufacturers, but in many cases reach the organs in high concentrations" https://freewestmedia.com/2021/06/04/pfizer-biontech-animal-trials-show-dangerous-concentrations-of-nano-particles-in-organs/
English copy of the Japanese biodistribution study https://www.lifesitenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Pfizer-bio-distribution-confidential-document-translated-to-english.pdf
Here's a couple sites with pathology slides
https://rivercitymalone.com/health/pathologists-investigate-deaths-after-covid-vaccination/
https://theexpose.uk/2021/08/31/german-doctors-and-lawyers-assess-blood-smears-from-people-who-have-had-covid-injections-for-me-this-is-euthanasia-for-me-this-is-mass-murder-a-crime-on-a-grand-scale/
So you avoided mentioning Ivermectin and HCQ to improve your palatability, and reduce psychotic cognitive dissonance. But you got branded as a dangerous purveyor of misinformation anyhow. So maybe you might as well speak the full truth?
It would be interesting, though, to see an RCT comparing outcomes with vitamins, nutritional supplements & oral + nasal hygiene alone, vs. those interventions combined with Ivermectin, HCQ, fluvoxamine and so forth.
"So maybe you might as well speak the full truth?"
If you are offered an invitation into a dinner party, but told not to broach a sensitive topic, you generally do not broach that topic.
Of course, that doesn't mean I'm not still talking about this under the guise of (ahem) "The Chloroquine Wars".
"It would be interesting, though, to see an RCT comparing outcomes with vitamins, nutritional supplements & oral + nasal hygiene alone, vs. those interventions combined with Ivermectin, HCQ, fluvoxamine and so forth."
That would have been interesting early on. Why that wasn't part of the pandemic response on day 1...hmmm...but at this point, it would be immoral to deny anyone the better medicines at random.
I apologize, I didn't read closely enough to see that the session was not open for general public comments.
By dangerous, I think they mean dangerous to pharma's deep pockets. Also dangerous because as more and more people finally realize they've been lied to about early treatment (etc., etc., etc.), politicians are going to have a lot of 'splainin' to do. The media no doubt plan to make sure that never comes to pass.
There is overwhelming evidence that the immune system cells need a serum threshold of 45- 50ng/mL in order to be competent (for T cells to spring into action without going rogue, for antiviral peptides to be produced in lung tissue, etc etc). Yet the great majority of the population have a serum level of 20-30ng/mL, with 30 being (tragically) considered sufficient for bone health. Big Pharma had no interest in promoting a vitamin freely available through much of the year and one they cannot license. They would, of course, rather patent an expensive "magic bullet" which will enrich company directors and shareholders. This letter (https://vitamindforall.org/letter.html) was written almost a year ago, yet physicians continue unaware of the latest research on vit D, and many people will remain stuck in the hyper inflammatory state of their immune system.
Meant: serum level of 45-50ng/mL of Vit D
Vitamind D (getting OHD25 up) is clearly crucial.
Ha! I hooted out loud.
This is exactly what we need. Dr. Malone is the World's Most Interesting Man type, now we need a hugely dangerous-sexy type. We'll have all the cool points and can conquer the public with our image, if not our wisdom.
Oh, wait, seems Fauci is the sexiest man alive, dang, we're doomed.
Helloooo Dr Rollergator! A native Floridian, no doubt.
He's not a Floridian, actually, though that's as much as I'll say.
I spent a lot of time, midway in 2020, trying to convince our ELECTED officials and/or political appointees to acknowledge truths FROM the PCR inventor & others (all PRIMARY SOURCES-- says this librarian). NONE had interest in entertaining any idea besides their Mockingbird narratives, nor did they reapond! I believe Waters was inc, as the rep for HKai schools. I'm convinced they ARE part of the problem ($), or just dum dums. Grrr. CivilBeat included! Today I see an article how owner Omidyar may be complicit in some dark things...So KEEP PUSHING FOLKS. Soon their fortress gate WILL fall!
The truth is only dangerous to dangerous people.
As a Honolulu County resident, I apologize for Councilmember Tommy Waters comments about you, Dr. Armstrong and Dr. Malone, which proved beyond a shadow of a doubt his inexcusable ignorance and unfitness to hold a position of responsibility.
Apparently ivermectin is on the CDC web site under "Characteristics of Antiviral Agents That Are Approved or Under Evaluation for the Treatment of COVID-19" -- https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/tables/table-2e/
Maybe could have mentioned it by starting with that page :-)