I’m old enough to remember a time when wood, cardboard, paper and metals prevailed over plastics. I would have never replaced the wood on my deck with plastic, if only I could still obtain the wood preservatives I utilized 30 years ago. Sometimes it’s not new technologies that are needed, but rather a look back to the past to see what worked then.
About the ultrasound method used to clean water, i know a canadian name john hutchinston and back then when bp petrolium had their oil spill, jhon was sent to clean this up by ultrasound frequency in the 90’s. Would you know something about this man and his work? Here i’ll shoot the links and in is site there is a radioshow he got interviewed talking bout this in the archive of the site. He mentions is contract in it. And so much more!
Since its similar method i tought it might interest you.
On him not made by our untrustworthy government :)
I hate plastics, there is way to much! I even made bets with friends that their will be a plastic pandemia in a far away futur.(3 years ago) i am eager to see if i made a wild homerun guess.
Wow! Thanks! I ll surely read this soon (1 more on the pile of to read book, getting huge and i like it like that) i always been amazed by hutchinston, so thanks again
Ooo ... didn't know that it is on that reading list.
Soldiers of the future?
I don't know which is scarier, that or the normalization of those 'funny' YouTube podcasts of robot dogs scaring the bejeezus out of real dogs. What can be weaponized will be.
I am not sure "some of that budget could be shipped straight to engineering and technical universities".... It could get co-opted! I live in a town that has been treating their water for PFAS for years. Apparently we are the tip of the spear for this. I am honestly tired of being the tip of the spear (we have the first industrial scale offshore wind farm landing in our town). I have to say I was impressed when I toured our water facility to see the four or more ways we treat our water- green sand for minerals, carbon filters for PFAS, UV light for bugs and if course chemicals (chlorine etc). Our water is so clean after the effluent comes back, our town is considering drinking our treated effluent. Again tip of the spear thinking. But we live on top of our drinking water and our effluent amounts are so large, we have a water mounding problem affecting our water table and hence our water bodies because we have so many water bodies (ponds, lakes, north and south ocean embankments). I pray for strong out-of-the-box thinkers! If they could out think wind onto my shores, I would appreciate that!
Developing a humanure composting system would be a much better solution for the problems created by using clean drinking water over and over just so entire societies can poop in it over and over, especially since thermophilic composting of humanure will also turn all that former waste into productive, restorative resource for local farming and drastically alleviate water crises and needs. Perhaps the most out-of-box thinking needed is to stop thinking that poop needs to go into water to make it "safe" and "disposed of" when instead it can go into a compost pile and in a year vanish into humus.
if you wanna be a 'conspiracy theorist' (truth teller in this day and age), just consider the impact this has on gender. Now consider things like climate alarmism, AI, and mRNA...
Temple Grandin has successfully made advances in education with regard to prioritizing useful outcomes for individuals with abilities. A parallel education system that is publicly funded and recognizes these skills as highly respected and prestigious is a long time coming and necessary. Thank you Mr. Crawford for emphasizing these so very important issues. Communities need to involve themselves in these decisions so that our kids have these opportunities. The easy way is not serving us well.
The ouroboros will continue to devour itself until moral improves?
Reminds me of that Sir Ken Robinson lecture where he says they gave a paperclip to adults who came up with a dozen uses for it, same paperclip to teens and they doubled the number of ideas and then to 5 year old who came up with over 200 used because they weren’t afraid to imagine what if the paperclip was 100 feet tall and made of rubber. And then the kids go to school and they get factory churned out to be the same dumbed down version of everybody else, with stunted imagination and desire to innovate.
In my limited reading, I would say that we can conclude that microplastics (and nanoplastics) exist, that they can be ingested by animals (not sure about plants), and that they are not beneficial. Most of the polymer substances themselves (like polyethylene) are fairly stable, unreactive molecules. I am not aware of any clear evidence that they are harmful. However, there are large numbers of additives to plastics, including minerals (from inorganic ricks) and chemicals (both organic and inorganic, natural and synthetic). Some of these additives have been identified as harmful or potentially harmful. Given what we know, what should we do? The low-hanging fruit would be the banning of the known harmful chemicals. Could we proceed systematically to the ultimate banning of all synthetic polymers (there are natural polymers also, like cellulose)? The answer is: not if you want to have anything like our "modern" civilization. But we need to start somewhere, because we do have a host of problems. The biggest problem is that the biggest problem is our present government!
I meant that it would be reasonable to ban the addition of certain known harmful chemicals to many common plastics, not to ban them entirely. This would especially be true if they are not essential or good alternatives exist.
Government is thoroughly weaponized against Westernkind, as are all institutions that can be captured by our parasitic overlords. We must Go Free! https://nowhiteguilt.org
I don’t believe DARPA or any other “green” or “climate change” organization has any intention of “helping” anything. It appears to me that all they do is destroy, make worse, and exacerbate whatever situation they get involved in…just look at what they have done with “saving the spotted owl”; forests are no longer managed and have become tinder boxes for epic infernos as we are seeing in the NW and Canada. I’m also fairly certain these organizations are cursing the day these two bright teenagers were born!
We PRODUCE Nano-Plastics by disinfecting water by a combo of CIO2 and HClO in municipal water systems. ChIorine Dioxide (as beneficial and efficient it is both topically as well as systemically) is like the airforce, the spike of the force, diffusing into the pipe walls, and HClO is infantry.
And system knows it for ecades, as HDPE pipes are all equipped by anti-oxidants in plastic resin, polyphenols, that degrade to very icky sounding molecules.
I did not find health assessment of these degradation products, both of PolyEthylene, and of the plastic-resin Polyphenols, which I find … typical after collecting the symptoms of state of play the last 3 years.
But I did find a paper dealing with the question of corrosion.
See p. 14 for some impression on degradation molecules.
It seems the combo is able to gnaw through thick plastic pipes in ca. 30years, dismantling all to nano.
In a sane world, we would not induce toxic nanomaterial just for “safety” against some (mostly harmless) bacteria on a prophylactic base with horrendous side effects.
In a sane world, we would find other solutions.
E.g. use UV-C bulbs or LEDs at wells or pumping stations, and a short stainless steel cooldown pipe lengths, as O3 is most aggressive, but quickly decomposed, and perhaps repeat at some drinking water of immuno-compromised in houses, if necessary.
Done.
Now I found it is easy to bind nanoplastics by growing crystals, so in saturated solutions.
Just look at the DIY magnesium bicarbonate water production Dr. Marc Sircus explains.
I observed that it dragged out magnanese and probably nanoplastic from my tap water to a little ball at the bottom of the flask.
At another occasion, I dosed Mg(OH)2 more generously and had a crystal encrusting over large areas of the glass.
If you like to introduce filters to your water, search for things like anti-oxidant dosing into the water to destroy remaining oxidants, before you shove it through filters that would decay themselves to nanoplastics. Or use forever plastics like PVDF filtration capillaries.
Afterwards, everything below 10nm is still in the water, so we have to filtrate the portion for cooking and drinking by generous filtration lengths of e.g. activated carbon.
Please comment if you can imagine it works, or have better approaches , please.
So far I think that even reverse osmosis perhaps is not targeting nanoplastics efficiently.
By the way, exposing CIO2 to (UV) (sun) light can split up even silicon, so will decompose some of the hardest-to-crack pollutants, but the chamber in which you let that happen wants to be designed cleverly, materials chosen wisely.
I wanted to disinfect my pool by hanging a silicone clip of MMS1 bag into the inrush stream, where CIO2 diffuses through the silicone as it is a membrane (even useable for fuel cells), and it worked well. But I let it hung for three days, not covered against daylight, after which the silicone was milky and very brittle.
So CIO2 can do both: produce nanoplastics, but also could decompose it (or rather secondary O. And OH. Radicals) to harmless little molecules.
I’m old enough to remember a time when wood, cardboard, paper and metals prevailed over plastics. I would have never replaced the wood on my deck with plastic, if only I could still obtain the wood preservatives I utilized 30 years ago. Sometimes it’s not new technologies that are needed, but rather a look back to the past to see what worked then.
What were the wood preservatives you used 30 years ago?
Reproduction is on the decline for many reasons, microplastics is a key one
Does the microplastic thing equally affect both sexes, or does it affects more the uterus and ovaries?
Affects our whole body unfortunately, Accumulation occurs testes / ovaries.
About the ultrasound method used to clean water, i know a canadian name john hutchinston and back then when bp petrolium had their oil spill, jhon was sent to clean this up by ultrasound frequency in the 90’s. Would you know something about this man and his work? Here i’ll shoot the links and in is site there is a radioshow he got interviewed talking bout this in the archive of the site. He mentions is contract in it. And so much more!
Since its similar method i tought it might interest you.
www.hutchisoneffect.com
And I’d really like a point of view
On him not made by our untrustworthy government :)
I hate plastics, there is way to much! I even made bets with friends that their will be a plastic pandemia in a far away futur.(3 years ago) i am eager to see if i made a wild homerun guess.
"The Hunt For Zero Point" was a fascinating book that has some interesting stuff about Hutchinson.
Wow! Thanks! I ll surely read this soon (1 more on the pile of to read book, getting huge and i like it like that) i always been amazed by hutchinston, so thanks again
"Ender's Game", Chaos Agent's Cut.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender%27s_Game
Is it weird that a (supposedly) fiction novel is recommended reading for the Marines? Interesting link, thanks for sharing!
Ooo ... didn't know that it is on that reading list.
Soldiers of the future?
I don't know which is scarier, that or the normalization of those 'funny' YouTube podcasts of robot dogs scaring the bejeezus out of real dogs. What can be weaponized will be.
Cheers from Japan OkayJess!
Absolutely. Thank you and cheers and blessings to you as well!
I am not sure "some of that budget could be shipped straight to engineering and technical universities".... It could get co-opted! I live in a town that has been treating their water for PFAS for years. Apparently we are the tip of the spear for this. I am honestly tired of being the tip of the spear (we have the first industrial scale offshore wind farm landing in our town). I have to say I was impressed when I toured our water facility to see the four or more ways we treat our water- green sand for minerals, carbon filters for PFAS, UV light for bugs and if course chemicals (chlorine etc). Our water is so clean after the effluent comes back, our town is considering drinking our treated effluent. Again tip of the spear thinking. But we live on top of our drinking water and our effluent amounts are so large, we have a water mounding problem affecting our water table and hence our water bodies because we have so many water bodies (ponds, lakes, north and south ocean embankments). I pray for strong out-of-the-box thinkers! If they could out think wind onto my shores, I would appreciate that!
Developing a humanure composting system would be a much better solution for the problems created by using clean drinking water over and over just so entire societies can poop in it over and over, especially since thermophilic composting of humanure will also turn all that former waste into productive, restorative resource for local farming and drastically alleviate water crises and needs. Perhaps the most out-of-box thinking needed is to stop thinking that poop needs to go into water to make it "safe" and "disposed of" when instead it can go into a compost pile and in a year vanish into humus.
if you wanna be a 'conspiracy theorist' (truth teller in this day and age), just consider the impact this has on gender. Now consider things like climate alarmism, AI, and mRNA...
what do they all have in common?
https://eccentrik.substack.com/p/transhumanism-is-the-extermination
I'm a tech caveman lol is BGram only available on smartphones?
okay cool, I'll look into it
Temple Grandin has successfully made advances in education with regard to prioritizing useful outcomes for individuals with abilities. A parallel education system that is publicly funded and recognizes these skills as highly respected and prestigious is a long time coming and necessary. Thank you Mr. Crawford for emphasizing these so very important issues. Communities need to involve themselves in these decisions so that our kids have these opportunities. The easy way is not serving us well.
The ouroboros will continue to devour itself until moral improves?
Reminds me of that Sir Ken Robinson lecture where he says they gave a paperclip to adults who came up with a dozen uses for it, same paperclip to teens and they doubled the number of ideas and then to 5 year old who came up with over 200 used because they weren’t afraid to imagine what if the paperclip was 100 feet tall and made of rubber. And then the kids go to school and they get factory churned out to be the same dumbed down version of everybody else, with stunted imagination and desire to innovate.
Wow! That paperclip just inspired me for an upcoming family English tutoring session.
Much thanks!
Glad the anecdote comes to good use, Steve!
One of the kids uses was a game called "Mangle Clippy" :)
Same here with the Great Lakes
In my limited reading, I would say that we can conclude that microplastics (and nanoplastics) exist, that they can be ingested by animals (not sure about plants), and that they are not beneficial. Most of the polymer substances themselves (like polyethylene) are fairly stable, unreactive molecules. I am not aware of any clear evidence that they are harmful. However, there are large numbers of additives to plastics, including minerals (from inorganic ricks) and chemicals (both organic and inorganic, natural and synthetic). Some of these additives have been identified as harmful or potentially harmful. Given what we know, what should we do? The low-hanging fruit would be the banning of the known harmful chemicals. Could we proceed systematically to the ultimate banning of all synthetic polymers (there are natural polymers also, like cellulose)? The answer is: not if you want to have anything like our "modern" civilization. But we need to start somewhere, because we do have a host of problems. The biggest problem is that the biggest problem is our present government!
Note: inorganic "rocks"
As opposed to coal, gilsonite, pitch, kerogen, etc. 😋
Don't ban known harmful chemicals; just don't GRAS them! Synthetic chemists and other researchers may need to use them.
I meant that it would be reasonable to ban the addition of certain known harmful chemicals to many common plastics, not to ban them entirely. This would especially be true if they are not essential or good alternatives exist.
Yes and Yes!
Government is thoroughly weaponized against Westernkind, as are all institutions that can be captured by our parasitic overlords. We must Go Free! https://nowhiteguilt.org
Kudos to the teenagers who invented the microplastic filtering device!
And yes, it’s disappointing that politicians are wasting money on insignificant things instead of funding these teens
I don’t believe DARPA or any other “green” or “climate change” organization has any intention of “helping” anything. It appears to me that all they do is destroy, make worse, and exacerbate whatever situation they get involved in…just look at what they have done with “saving the spotted owl”; forests are no longer managed and have become tinder boxes for epic infernos as we are seeing in the NW and Canada. I’m also fairly certain these organizations are cursing the day these two bright teenagers were born!
BGRAM is android based and I’m on iOS…is there a way to reach you on an iOS app such as Nicegram? I’m a bit of a newbie on these mediums. Thanks
Gee, instead maybe we shouldn't be using so much plastic.
uhm, and there's this https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/25765299.2020.1762294
Think nano-plastic: micro-plastic is not the end.
We PRODUCE Nano-Plastics by disinfecting water by a combo of CIO2 and HClO in municipal water systems. ChIorine Dioxide (as beneficial and efficient it is both topically as well as systemically) is like the airforce, the spike of the force, diffusing into the pipe walls, and HClO is infantry.
And system knows it for ecades, as HDPE pipes are all equipped by anti-oxidants in plastic resin, polyphenols, that degrade to very icky sounding molecules.
I did not find health assessment of these degradation products, both of PolyEthylene, and of the plastic-resin Polyphenols, which I find … typical after collecting the symptoms of state of play the last 3 years.
But I did find a paper dealing with the question of corrosion.
See p. 14 for some impression on degradation molecules.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/352220536_Degradation_of_Polymer_Elastomer_Exposed_to_Chlorinated_Water-A_Review/fulltext/60bf730ea6fdcc5128121d53/Degradation-of-Polymer-Elastomer-Exposed-to-Chlorinated-Water-A-Review.pdf?origin=publication_detail
It seems the combo is able to gnaw through thick plastic pipes in ca. 30years, dismantling all to nano.
In a sane world, we would not induce toxic nanomaterial just for “safety” against some (mostly harmless) bacteria on a prophylactic base with horrendous side effects.
In a sane world, we would find other solutions.
E.g. use UV-C bulbs or LEDs at wells or pumping stations, and a short stainless steel cooldown pipe lengths, as O3 is most aggressive, but quickly decomposed, and perhaps repeat at some drinking water of immuno-compromised in houses, if necessary.
Done.
Now I found it is easy to bind nanoplastics by growing crystals, so in saturated solutions.
Just look at the DIY magnesium bicarbonate water production Dr. Marc Sircus explains.
I observed that it dragged out magnanese and probably nanoplastic from my tap water to a little ball at the bottom of the flask.
At another occasion, I dosed Mg(OH)2 more generously and had a crystal encrusting over large areas of the glass.
If you like to introduce filters to your water, search for things like anti-oxidant dosing into the water to destroy remaining oxidants, before you shove it through filters that would decay themselves to nanoplastics. Or use forever plastics like PVDF filtration capillaries.
Afterwards, everything below 10nm is still in the water, so we have to filtrate the portion for cooking and drinking by generous filtration lengths of e.g. activated carbon.
Please comment if you can imagine it works, or have better approaches , please.
So far I think that even reverse osmosis perhaps is not targeting nanoplastics efficiently.
By the way, exposing CIO2 to (UV) (sun) light can split up even silicon, so will decompose some of the hardest-to-crack pollutants, but the chamber in which you let that happen wants to be designed cleverly, materials chosen wisely.
I wanted to disinfect my pool by hanging a silicone clip of MMS1 bag into the inrush stream, where CIO2 diffuses through the silicone as it is a membrane (even useable for fuel cells), and it worked well. But I let it hung for three days, not covered against daylight, after which the silicone was milky and very brittle.
So CIO2 can do both: produce nanoplastics, but also could decompose it (or rather secondary O. And OH. Radicals) to harmless little molecules.