My last communication with Gorski and his groupies at SBM was in March of 2020 when the Covid hysteria was just getting started. I posted a link to this article in STAT by John Ioannidis...
A fiasco in the making? As the coronavirus pandemic takes hold, we are making decisions without reliable data
At the time, I was familiar with Ioannidis' work and assumed that the people at SBM would consider his reputation as a researcher and offer a reasonable response to the questions he raised regarding Covid. Boy, was I wrong. Gorski accused Ioannidis of cherry picking, citing the numbers from Italy as his proof. When I pointed out that Gorski was indulging in a fair amount of cherry picking by using Italy as his example instead of, say, Germany, all hell broke loose. Gorski's groupies mounted such a vicious attack on me (even accusing me of racism!) that I have not gone back to the SBM site.
Reminds me of the online free course Paul Offit gave on vaccines over a decade ago. A co-worker (very pro-vax) suggested I take it to "learn from a real expert". The course was pretty low level without any real value to me but time permitting I'll listen to other points of view.
I asked a simple question about the flu vax compared to vitamin D3 in the group and holy shrill screaking from the "Offit worshippers" was all I got. The true believers in a cult will never tolerate any questions. You are not there to learn. You are there to believe.
"Once again I have to wonder what proportion of oncologists just like to burn people." Heckuva sentence. I had never thought of it that way but I imagine it's close to 100%?
Mathew (note the single t), I completely understand your frustration with the Medical Freedom Movement in lieu of the enormous amount of work you did exposing the shenanigans in the DMED system which remains unacknowledged. That said, I am elated that you have once again pointed your brains and sharp wit at the useful idiots in the medical establishment like Gorski.
You may not see it, yet, but most players on the two sides are the same teams funded by the same sources. The only way not to be a useful idiot is to do enormous due diligence in all relationships and the Big Picture. Lacking that, any revolution will simply revolve public facing aristocrats.
The Legacy media works in concert with the alt media. The idea that the alt media would be left without capture seems silly on face in a world that reached a point at which so many people are abandoning ship because "all the institutions are captured."
Name the alt media organizations that can't be traced to intelligence, or aren't highly suspicious in their slant of coverage.
You can tell this is the case by the way the MSM does not even correctly critique the alt media when there are slam dunks available.
It is not unreasonable to consider that possibility everywhere you leave a footprint. You should do your best to segregate your prints into those you manage more closely and more loosely. Have good digital hygiene.
You may be right, but here I am referring to individual players and not media platforms. Furthermore we can still dunk on those who are pushing the shots first. I concede that I do not and cannot know what hidden agendas exist, but I am less interested in exposing shortcomings in people who are imploring people to avoid the jab.
Haven’t you seen the recent (coordinated?) series of Substack writers decrying Substack’s promotion of Naziism? Rebuttals from those of us who have seen no hint of evidence in that direction are dismissed. The long and short, IMO is to register others’ statements (I.e., to read whatever is written) but always in the context that its relevance to truth is always uncertain. I do tend to quit reading articles that degenerate into either invective, name-calling, profanity, or disdain for God.
It's interesting to hear JBP making the point I've made about the e-meter being the same thing that gets used in various therapies (and lie detector tests). I've felt that the IDW was often taking/using some of my point incompletely. Is this to disguise the fact (which I bet JBP knows) that Scientology is really just a disguised intelligence cult downstream from psychiatry mind control groups like Tavistock.
I try not to have antipathy towards people, but people like Gorski (or Matthew Remski) trigger such a visceral revulsion in me that I cannot help myself. They always seem to be acting in bad faith and their devotees are obnoxious.
I don't blame the doctors who are jumping on the "sell vitamins" bandwagon. They have every right to make a profit. To call them grifters when they've lost jobs and income due to their stance on covid vaccines is obviously wrong.
That said I haven't bought anything from TWC or others. I insist on proper third party testing and not trusting the manufacturers. Until I can verify that those selling a product do the proper testing why would I buy from them?
As always it's "Food first. They're called supplements, not replacements, for a reason".
Pharma shills really struggle to find a motivation they can accuse dissidents of. What demographic responds to the word "grift"? "Quack" is an old-fashioned label which intends to brainwash the Boomers and those older. I once read an analysis of snake oil, which was actually Chinese Medicine, used on the West coast, during the Gold Rush originally, and the original snake oil had enormously beneficial constituents. I think the analysis was by an Orthomolecular doctor, now deceased. But early Pharma was already attacking alternative medicine even before Flexner and Rockefeller. Richard Grossinger has a great book on this, Planet Medicine. Here's a pharma schill going after John Campbell and RFK jr's book on the doubling down disinfo youtube. This is the "Back to the Science" podcast. (I suspect that "back" is a neurolinguistic programming word, like "experts")
Dr John Campbell slips further down the rabbit hole – Is flat earth support next?
Let’s face it. Gorski is an utter bitch to the authoritarian narrative, and deserves every negative consequence of selling his a$$ to be filled by the biggest phallic agent of the globalists
I find it somewhat disgusting that The Wellness Company's marketing technique is to parrot the CDC 'tripledemic' propaganda or 'Chinese white lung syndrome' to sell their products. You can go see these right now on Zerohedge or Gateway Pundit and they are there pretty much every day. They started out a bit different but now their marketing strategy has converged with pharma and the government's strategies.
Gorski has been at it for a long time, at least for the eleven years I've been researching vaccines, and takes particular pleasure in gaslighting the parents of vaccine-injured children. He is indeed a coward, but one who is not even worth bothering with.
Gorski is a punk trying to get a rise out of people. He’s not genuine or reasonable and should be ignored. He cares nothing for any real debate. He’s just after raising your hackles.
Seems to me that Gorski and his audience just like to hold, then dump their over stuffed colons, on anybody offering the message of an alternative to pharma. I feel dirty when i read such articles, and generally choose to not offer my attention to such mocking low mindedness, no thank you.
Malone has problems spelling several people's names. It's likely he's dyslexic to a degree. Maybe from the vaccine injury. I can dig for examples if you'd like; such things jump out at me immediately when reading an article. Like our friend Jessica's misspelling Joe Ladapo's name as Lapado the other day, multiple times in the same article.
His wife does most of the writing, and is an expert documentarian. Even after somebody corrected my name once on one of their susbstacks, it was shortened to Mat, which is an unused diminutive that stands out as an unusual dodge.
The mis-spellings seem to be a bit of a "tell" to me--showing a certain disrespect perhaps? Serious, thoughtful people take care to get their grammar and spelling right.
My last communication with Gorski and his groupies at SBM was in March of 2020 when the Covid hysteria was just getting started. I posted a link to this article in STAT by John Ioannidis...
A fiasco in the making? As the coronavirus pandemic takes hold, we are making decisions without reliable data
https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/
At the time, I was familiar with Ioannidis' work and assumed that the people at SBM would consider his reputation as a researcher and offer a reasonable response to the questions he raised regarding Covid. Boy, was I wrong. Gorski accused Ioannidis of cherry picking, citing the numbers from Italy as his proof. When I pointed out that Gorski was indulging in a fair amount of cherry picking by using Italy as his example instead of, say, Germany, all hell broke loose. Gorski's groupies mounted such a vicious attack on me (even accusing me of racism!) that I have not gone back to the SBM site.
Reminds me of the online free course Paul Offit gave on vaccines over a decade ago. A co-worker (very pro-vax) suggested I take it to "learn from a real expert". The course was pretty low level without any real value to me but time permitting I'll listen to other points of view.
I asked a simple question about the flu vax compared to vitamin D3 in the group and holy shrill screaking from the "Offit worshippers" was all I got. The true believers in a cult will never tolerate any questions. You are not there to learn. You are there to believe.
You struck a hard blow and the vicious reaction was confirmation. Though I am sure it was unpleasant, well done.
Thank you.
you're welcome.
Political attack dogs masquerading as scientific?
"Once again I have to wonder what proportion of oncologists just like to burn people." Heckuva sentence. I had never thought of it that way but I imagine it's close to 100%?
Mathew (note the single t), I completely understand your frustration with the Medical Freedom Movement in lieu of the enormous amount of work you did exposing the shenanigans in the DMED system which remains unacknowledged. That said, I am elated that you have once again pointed your brains and sharp wit at the useful idiots in the medical establishment like Gorski.
Madhava,
You may not see it, yet, but most players on the two sides are the same teams funded by the same sources. The only way not to be a useful idiot is to do enormous due diligence in all relationships and the Big Picture. Lacking that, any revolution will simply revolve public facing aristocrats.
Only one side opposes legacy media. Dismantling that deeply corrupt and powerful institution must be the first step. We have to begin there IMO
"Only one side opposes legacy media."
The Legacy media works in concert with the alt media. The idea that the alt media would be left without capture seems silly on face in a world that reached a point at which so many people are abandoning ship because "all the institutions are captured."
Name the alt media organizations that can't be traced to intelligence, or aren't highly suspicious in their slant of coverage.
You can tell this is the case by the way the MSM does not even correctly critique the alt media when there are slam dunks available.
What about Substack? Could this be a data collection site of all dissident and often intelligent voices?
It is not unreasonable to consider that possibility everywhere you leave a footprint. You should do your best to segregate your prints into those you manage more closely and more loosely. Have good digital hygiene.
I was going to off the same suggestion. Does substack have any intelligence connections anyone is aware of?
You may be right, but here I am referring to individual players and not media platforms. Furthermore we can still dunk on those who are pushing the shots first. I concede that I do not and cannot know what hidden agendas exist, but I am less interested in exposing shortcomings in people who are imploring people to avoid the jab.
Haven’t you seen the recent (coordinated?) series of Substack writers decrying Substack’s promotion of Naziism? Rebuttals from those of us who have seen no hint of evidence in that direction are dismissed. The long and short, IMO is to register others’ statements (I.e., to read whatever is written) but always in the context that its relevance to truth is always uncertain. I do tend to quit reading articles that degenerate into either invective, name-calling, profanity, or disdain for God.
“Decrying what they claim is” for those who read fast and might not sense my skepticism.
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off topic for this post, but I thought you'd be interested
Raised by Thetans in a Galactic Gulag | Aaron Smith-levin | EP 413 Jordan Peterson interviews
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3SnxVoO2Jw
It's interesting to hear JBP making the point I've made about the e-meter being the same thing that gets used in various therapies (and lie detector tests). I've felt that the IDW was often taking/using some of my point incompletely. Is this to disguise the fact (which I bet JBP knows) that Scientology is really just a disguised intelligence cult downstream from psychiatry mind control groups like Tavistock.
Gorski is such a shill. It's pathetic when you see the mutton sharing his articles like it's gospel
I try not to have antipathy towards people, but people like Gorski (or Matthew Remski) trigger such a visceral revulsion in me that I cannot help myself. They always seem to be acting in bad faith and their devotees are obnoxious.
I don't blame the doctors who are jumping on the "sell vitamins" bandwagon. They have every right to make a profit. To call them grifters when they've lost jobs and income due to their stance on covid vaccines is obviously wrong.
That said I haven't bought anything from TWC or others. I insist on proper third party testing and not trusting the manufacturers. Until I can verify that those selling a product do the proper testing why would I buy from them?
As always it's "Food first. They're called supplements, not replacements, for a reason".
Did you read my vitamins article?
Please, I have searched for a “ vitamins article” with no luck. Where would I find this?
Yes. It was very good.
Pharma shills really struggle to find a motivation they can accuse dissidents of. What demographic responds to the word "grift"? "Quack" is an old-fashioned label which intends to brainwash the Boomers and those older. I once read an analysis of snake oil, which was actually Chinese Medicine, used on the West coast, during the Gold Rush originally, and the original snake oil had enormously beneficial constituents. I think the analysis was by an Orthomolecular doctor, now deceased. But early Pharma was already attacking alternative medicine even before Flexner and Rockefeller. Richard Grossinger has a great book on this, Planet Medicine. Here's a pharma schill going after John Campbell and RFK jr's book on the doubling down disinfo youtube. This is the "Back to the Science" podcast. (I suspect that "back" is a neurolinguistic programming word, like "experts")
Dr John Campbell slips further down the rabbit hole – Is flat earth support next?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m06E0sbBktk&t=8s
Let’s face it. Gorski is an utter bitch to the authoritarian narrative, and deserves every negative consequence of selling his a$$ to be filled by the biggest phallic agent of the globalists
Sadly, there is enough money in the system for him to exist comfortably. This is a systemic problem that humanity will have to sort out.
I find it somewhat disgusting that The Wellness Company's marketing technique is to parrot the CDC 'tripledemic' propaganda or 'Chinese white lung syndrome' to sell their products. You can go see these right now on Zerohedge or Gateway Pundit and they are there pretty much every day. They started out a bit different but now their marketing strategy has converged with pharma and the government's strategies.
Gorski has been at it for a long time, at least for the eleven years I've been researching vaccines, and takes particular pleasure in gaslighting the parents of vaccine-injured children. He is indeed a coward, but one who is not even worth bothering with.
Gorski is a punk trying to get a rise out of people. He’s not genuine or reasonable and should be ignored. He cares nothing for any real debate. He’s just after raising your hackles.
Seems to me that Gorski and his audience just like to hold, then dump their over stuffed colons, on anybody offering the message of an alternative to pharma. I feel dirty when i read such articles, and generally choose to not offer my attention to such mocking low mindedness, no thank you.
Malone has problems spelling several people's names. It's likely he's dyslexic to a degree. Maybe from the vaccine injury. I can dig for examples if you'd like; such things jump out at me immediately when reading an article. Like our friend Jessica's misspelling Joe Ladapo's name as Lapado the other day, multiple times in the same article.
His wife does most of the writing, and is an expert documentarian. Even after somebody corrected my name once on one of their susbstacks, it was shortened to Mat, which is an unused diminutive that stands out as an unusual dodge.
I did that once, too (wrote "Matt", then when I realized, shorted it to "Mat"), and I'm very sorry for that.
As regards Malone, I did some digging, and he often misspells (Robert) Kadlec as "Kadlac", and at least once spelled (Harvey) Risch "Reisch".
Matt's on the mat!
The mis-spellings seem to be a bit of a "tell" to me--showing a certain disrespect perhaps? Serious, thoughtful people take care to get their grammar and spelling right.
There are some excellent and intelligent docs. The problem is in how long it takes to distinguish that.
Simple. Ask them the "pro or ho" question.
Should healthy children under the age of 12 take the covid vaccines?
If you don't get a straight "NO" then you are not dealing with a medical professional. You dealing with a pharma cartel whore.
That thins out the herds real quickly.