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Speaking of our own destruction ... Have you seen this from Jessica Rose? Chemical train "poised" near CA agricultural land ...

"Miles of train cars full of flammable liquids just happen to be ‘poised’ inside the heartland of one of America’s biggest sources of nuts (almonds, walnuts) and there’s also lots of cattle and pristine ranch land there.

Those orchards and that land need a water supply. Destroy the water supply → destroy the trees and the supply of food and the ranches.

The woman in this video says there are hundreds of cars and that the say liquid odorless petroleum gas on the cars that are sitting really low on their axles. She also said that the locals said that the train’s presence is unprecedented. Locals know. That does imply that they are full.

Now in light of the fact that there have many unexplained train derailments of late comprising some of the worst environmental catastrophes of our time (regardless of what the ‘legacy media’ is spitting and regardless of the fact that your esteemed leader decided Ukraine was more important than Ohio so took off to sit in golden chairs with their esteemed sniffle-uffugus), it kind of makes a thinking being wonder, what in the hell are they planning?

Click on the photo to watch the video." (Video is just two minutes).

https://jessica5b3.substack.com/p/preventing-train-derailment-to-avoid

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I have been following the story. In fact, my grandfather was the lawyer for Southern Railroad decades ago before it became part of Norfolk Southern, and my father directed the movement of agent orange around this network while cooping between the Army and his chemical engineering studies at Auburn. It seems quite shocking that this event happened at random with the result that it did.

There are very real concerns that we need to handle, which is why we need to understand the illusions.

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Thanks, I was just going to paste that comment, I may have shared this too soon (sorry!) -

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"The woman in this video says there are hundreds of cars and that the say liquid odorless petroleum gas on the cars that are sitting really low on their axles. She also said that the locals said that the train’s presence is unprecedented. Locals know. That does imply that they are full."

This woman clearly knows nothing about railway equipment. There's no way to tell from just looking at a rail car whether it's loaded or not. She also wonders who owns them, but hasn't noticed the reporting marks that tell you who the owners are. You only have look them up.

https://www.railserve.com/aar_railroad_reporting_marks.html

You don't even need the chart, just punch the reporting marks into a search engine.

For example: SHPX: https://www.abbreviations.com/SHPX

You can track individual rail cars using the reporting marks to find out where they are, where they originated, what their cargo is, and who the consignee is. I'm sure if you ran those numbers you'd find they're empty in storage because there's a surplus of tank cars right now, and when that happens they are often stored on unused sidings on secondary lines. No way are those cars loaded, given the remote location. Tank cars are all privately owned these days so you couldn't insure them or their cargo under those conditions. Insurers would demand a more secure location.

If they're in 'odorless' service that means they haul from the wellhead to the refinery, where SH2 is added for safety. That's the rotten egg smell you get from gas products which are odourless and heavier than air, so the smell is added for safety reasons to detect any leaks.

https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Mercaptan

A few minutes on the web could have answered all her questions, or she could have just phoned the railroad and asked about it. Instead she gets alarmed based on an emotional response to a recent serious event and broadcasts that on the web, where it gets picked up and rebroadcast by others, without anyone looking into it any further than she did.

This is what happens when you combine fear and ignorance in a mass media environment. It distracts attention, plus it interferes with serious investigative work by making us all look like idiots.

Stay focused people. If something is outside your area of expertise, don't rebroadcast it, ask someone who knows, or look into it yourself. There's far too much at stake right now to be distracted by this sort of thing."

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If the tank is too heavy for the track it is sitting on, the rails will deflect.

I have observed this phenomenon on poorly maintained rails.

Next:. LIQUID NATURAL GAS.

Left sitting out in the middle of nowhere, unsupervised?

The word KABOOOOM!!!! comes to mind. ;)

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I want a heart times ten button for Ellen! Good grief everybody, chill! To paraphrase the red queen, "sometimes we imagine 5 apocalypses before breakfast"!

If I personally were going to overthrow the country, I wouldn't begin by roasting almonds, trees and all.

Here's some news everybody missed. Within 24 hours after Eric Striker of the National Justice Party confronted US rep Bob Johnson for the inaction of the entire Republican administration of Ohio, the governor reversed course, declared an emergency, and requested FEMA assistance. Until that point they were going to steamroll those poor residents, and Norfolk Southern had already begun offering $1000 "settlements" to people whose children were breathing God knows what.

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Are chemical trains parked just an illusion? Good to know.

Seems to me that someone has a lot of power to be able to orchestrate this, if it's what we think it is.

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Chemical trains parked? I don't know what you're asking.

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I think e bear means it's an illusion (or at least, assumption), that the cars are loaded with chemicals ready to destroy farmland, or ready to be transported to another destination that may have an incident from poorly maintained tracks and overstretched workers.

It could be that they're stored on secondary lines because there's a surplus of tank cars. E bear says. I don't know. Maybe all possibilities are likely.

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I just read this, it's horrific, with acid rain coming down in Maine and over the Canadian border. They don't care where it goes, because they don't care who gets poisoned.

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How is it they think their own air, water, food, and scenery will be spared?

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They probably don't organize chemical train spills on their escape islands, and have some reliable supply of whatever the fuck they eat. They probably have enough wine stored somewhere, too. I don't know.

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Yes, they have a reliable supply of kittens.

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oh shit. hope they get toxoplasmosis and scratched from within.

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There are underground bunkers stashed with years supply of air/water/food with a very advanced travel system. Bunkers are connected by passable tunnels. There is whole other world below the surface of this world. They can destroy the surface and wait it out to return once the air is safe. We will all become fertilizer.

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2019 I would have called you a nut job. 2023 I think it's possible, these people are not playing with a full deck.

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Yes, I have read about the survivor bunker building craze. But such a life does not seem appealing. And the people engineering that future have sterile, barren souls—just like their bunkers.

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They...few be in number...no doubt have their supplies already stashed. Copious calculations have been made...presumably not usuing the same computer models as climategate.

Regardless...they are still humans, crippled mentally by their overwhelming belief in self superiority. That philosophy has left them wide open to a very special kind of anihilation they falsely perceive as their own indestructability.

Their motivations and goals are not their own...merely borrowed...or shall I say...sold to them.

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They are to be pitied, they don't know the best part about being human. It's the humanity.

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True stupidity. It's Wile e Coyote stupid.

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Worse.

IMHO.

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the end of the movie 12 monkeys when he goes through customs and lets everyone sniff the vile of the virus... "Yes its completely odorless."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WqiJmwu86E

https://open.substack.com/pub/saxxon/p/12-monkeys-nato-global-cassandra-ebf?r=1u8tu3&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

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I never watch films so this synopsis was useful to me:

https://youtu.be/6Q6TLPftPU8

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The electric state run amok

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California actually regulates their trains though. I ride the trolley regularly and I can’t recall it ever once derailing while I was on it. They have to build their trains to be sturdy enough not to get knocked over by earthquakes.

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True. California builds lots of Disneyland rides. They haven’t had a real earthquake since 1906. None of their infrastructure will make it intact in the big one. Unfortunately illusions are illusions.

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We even got rid of the San Onofre nuclear reactor. It makes sense, a fault line is a bad place to build a nuke facility. Unless the Jesuits (they pioneered the field of seismology) know more than they’re letting in then nobody knows when the next big quake is going to happen so they should have restrictions on such materials just in case.

I don’t even know why vinyl chloride has to be shipped so far? Why can’t they convert it into PVC at the same facility where they synthesize the vinyl chloride out of ethylene gas?

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Your last point is the issue, and from what I have heard, often that is the case, pvc is made where the vinyl chloride is produced, but listening to Jon Rappaport yesterday, he explained that some pvc is produced away from the VC production site and that needs to STOP.

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Yes thanks - I noticed. Reality has been cancelled so we can solve all of our problems in the MetaVERSE and in those Smart 15 minute cities. Ignoring reality is what I do best.

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Loma Prieta in 1989 was pretty damn real. So was the Northridge quake of 1994.

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Loma Prieta happened the month I was born. I don’t think it was hugely felt in San Diego though.

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I agree - I experienced both. So much so that my time in California can seem like an age of earthquakes & wildfires, bounded by social and economic upheavals.

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"I posit that there is no demon but us."

My thoughts exactly.

I'm still surprised that the people who want to be controlled and everyone else be controlled too, keep responding that the problems of the world (like fake pandemics and absurd bankers' wars) happen because there is not enough control.

I point out to them: we have tried control, many times in many ways, and it was a disaster every time. Everything fails. But it seems that freedom is the only system that has not been tried out yet. Maybe we should try.

If we, mere mortals, are intrinsically bad, it is impossible to have a good centralized government of the public affairs. Small or big, it won't work, because an accumulation of badness will not create any goodness.

If we, unlike computers, can alter our own behavior, then it is better to live by contracts and contract law, and learn from experience, not from fear.

Computers can only reveal everything we want to hide. We have to poison AI so that it is acceptable to our demonic worldview of lies and deception. The tools we create (swords, money, laws, computer networks) are neutral and do nothing by themselves that we don't want them to do. It is us who corrupt our tools, not the tools that corrupt us.

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The only problem with freedom is that it must involve a local will to push the Kunlangeta off the ice. Ubitquitous and everywhere.

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Plenty of Kunlangeta that need to go for a dip.

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“No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?”

— George Orwell, Animal Farm

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Sometimes ubiquitous and everywhere is where the answer lies.

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Utopia?

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No most definitely not utopia.

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Who decides who is Kunlangeta? Cannot the local kunlangeta teach their fellow local non-kunlangeta who to push off the ice, and will it only be kunlangeta pushed off then? Following the logic of the hyper-local fix.

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The dog pictured in my avatar ultimately makes the decision.

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Interesting. It seems they had to destroy dismantle the reality of "local" in order to make freedom more problematic. Training people into aversion.

This has been a chaotic time at least since the 1990s. I don't know in what phase we are, maybe near the collapse of chaos. When it happens, order emerges. It may not be a good order, but it will be order. My personal preference is a computer-aided order that elevates individual freedom. So far, since the advent of the iPhone, my experience has been computer-aided chaos everywhere.

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Agree. We lobbied for the pirates to take over. They complied

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Throughout history the vast majority of humans have been either slaves or surfs. Even now if you commute to work you are a slave. So-called Free Will is a joke. Every one of us is controlled, internally and externally - we are natural born slaves.

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Commuting everyday to go work in a cube farm with zero job security or pensions - as do most "tech workers" - for 40 years, just to pay off your home and retire. Everything else in your life revolves around this. Slavery indeed.

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The people doing that are victims of a fraud.

An educational fraud.

People pay to get a title that certifies they know things they don't know.

The fraudsters that have run education don't want people to think they do not need to buy an overpriced house. They teach people there is only a small number of jobs they can do, and that there is only one way to sell your time: through the dysfunctional system of the progressives control freaks.

As a result, people have zero imagination. They hurt if they try to think. They are literally victims of mind control.

There is no need to threaten them with violence if they try to escape, as it happens with slaves. They exert violence on themselves because of they programming.

They have to overcome the programming.

Having the wrong analysis of the situation will reinforce the programming.

Change your analysis if it does not work.

On a more practical note, the home is already paid. What the person in the example is paying is the loan. The seller of the house is not the lender of money, usually. He is paid. The lender is not the owner of the home. He doesn't own anything. He has a contractual right, by the loan contract, to receive money from the borrower, who is obligated contractually to pay. The money that is paid is owned first by the borrower and then, when it is given to the lender, it becomes his property. But the home is the property of the borrower. If he fails to pay, he has to pay penalties, according to the contract, which may include giving the property of the home to the lender.

In the crisis of 2007, we learned that lenders don't really want to own too many empty homes. The price of those crashes down. The market dies. Those irresponsible loans were their ruin. Lenders need to be responsible too, and pay for their mistakes. Or say they are too big to fail and have all the taxpayers money cover their errors. That is a huge fraud too.

People should become informed of the basics of the law before entering in dangerous games. Also, dangerous games should not be accessible to disinformed victims of education.

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You get it. :)

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A wall of text for a general simple observation I made? Give me a freaking break. BTW. I was not talking about myself, so save your lectures.

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You observation wrong made.

You need disciprine.

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Hello Buddhi.

Speak for yourself.

;)

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OK, first, it is written "serfs", not "surfs." Those two vowels are difficult to mix up due to the distance in the qwerty layout. Do you happen to be one of those weirdos who use the Dvorak layout?

Second, don't ever go read Jon Rappoport or you will believe you have free will and that you are not a slave, and breaking your worldview would be a tragedy.

Third, you can gain control of yourself any time you want. It takes practice. If you gain control of yourself, you will have proved performatively the falsity of determinism.

Try reading this https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Letter_to_Menoeceus and this https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Epictetus,_the_Discourses_as_reported_by_Arrian,_the_Manual,_and_Fragments/Book_2/Chapter_11

Then, you can go to research Plutarch, Aquinas, Spinoza, Schopenhauer and Bolzano.

Or... you can save yourself some time by reading the eastern philosophers.

fourth, in order to make a man a slave, first he has to be free.

When you go to work, you are freely selling your time and knowledge in exchange for money. If the conditions of that exchange are not OK for you, you need to find a better buyer of your work.

This is difficult because the labor market is very badly regulated. Dysfunctional markets tend to produce either too much supply or too much demand. Either way, they cannot find a¡n equilibrium or they find a bad equilibrium because of bad regulation. That has nothing to do with free will or slavery.

You suffer from victim consciousness. Or self-sabotage, if you will. There is rational hope for you. Keep reading Mathew Crawford and your thinking will expand, and you will be able to do more with less effort, and then your life will be better.

It's all about overcoming our flaws through learning and practice. Don't give up yet!

Lastly, don't do drugs, not even the illegal ones. Maybe a cup of good quality coffee and half a gram of deanol. Those are the best drugs.

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I'm a weirdo that uses speech recognition. Anyway, it is correctly spelled surfs in California.

As for free will (so-called) it is limited, thus not free, by intellect and circumstance. Are ants free? Yes, within their abilities. Same with us. Our so-called free will is negligible, regardless of what the philosophers say.

Since food, clothing, shelter, and heat are not free, we do not freely go to work - it is forced on us to survive. That is coercion.

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California does not even exist, bruh!

It's all in your mind, bruh!

The fact that you are not omnipotent does not mean you cannot choose to do or not do some action.

Second, if they need to coerce you for you to do it, it means you are free to not do it. The consequences of choosing another action may include a just punishment or an unjust punishment, or not punishment at all.

Third. You need things, you can buy things with money, you can obtain money by selling something, like your work. That is not slavery. Slaves do not sell their labor, they are violently forced to work.

If you don't want to work in exchange for money, but you want money, you can do other things. Preferably legal. For instance, you can marry to someone who has money. Or you can hypnotize yourself to convince yourself you are a psychic and then visualize a winning combination of the powerball. Or you can become a monk taking a vow of poverty and labor all day and all night in the service of God, and get a few coins from people who gift them to you, to help with your service.

Or you can go to the woods and avoid all humans. If you are all alone, you cannot exchange anything with anyone else, and in that situation money cannot exist. Everything is work, if you want to be alive, in such a situation. But you would be working to remain alive and not selling your work for money.

Seriously, go read the artist Jon Rappoport:

https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/

https://outsidetherealitymachine.com/

https://jonrappoport.substack.com/

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Slaves have it better than us. They got free housing, food, healthcare, and transportation to the fields.

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The also have the good climate of the south.

Is it economically viable to have many slaves in northern latitudes? Doesn't seem likely.

You see, the goodies the slaves have are paid by by the profits the master gets from their boss. They are paying for their housing, their food... everything. If they stop being profitable, they may be sold for scraps, or simply killed.

No problem for those who don't have morals.

One possible business for you is to form an non-profit that defends the repeal of the 14th amendment to the US Constitution. You may enjoy working in that project. You will commute each day with a very wide smile, your eyes will always be brilliant from the excitement, the food will taste better and everyone will say you irradiate happiness.

You, my friend, are in need of a vocation. You don't need for it to be rational or possible. You just need to choose freely, as if you had free will.

Have you considered painting with acrylics?

Like, you select only two colors and a couple of painting knives, and a prepared canvas, and then you start painting whatever the cosmos commands you to paint: squares, a honeycomb pattern, parallel lines, the flat earth in all its glorious flattitude...

Give yourself permission to do something you like. You can write a story where your boss suffers many comical accidents, and she survives all of them. Or write a sonnet about a beautiful face. It doesn't need to be writing, but it has to be an action. Videogames don't count.

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Consider also that Nietzsche calls free will a folly resulting from the extravagant pride of man, and calls the idea of free will a crass stupidity.

Plato, Hobbes, Hume, Leibniz, and Hegel all agree.

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You forgot the most important: Schopenhauer

But go read the other side, don't be lazy.

Read Bolzano. Read Aquinas.

The French and Italian philosophers are worth reading.

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Actually, Schopenhauer said that humans have absolutely no free will, as they are completely determined by how their bodies react to stimuli, causes, and motives.

"You can do what you will, but in any given moment of your life you can will only one definite thing and absolutely nothing other than that one thing."

-Schopenhauer

He points out the infinite regress if one asks, "can you will what you willed to will?" that implies absolutely no free will.

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Once you get past the delusional happy talk, humans are donkeys strapped to a yoke circling around a water wheel. Just the way it is, unless you're a Buddha, who may well have been deluded.

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There is no such thing as artificial intelligence, just as there is no such thing as a random number generator. Computers can only do what they're instructed to do, which is how Biden, Fetterman and Hobbes got elected, and why YOU will never win the Powerball. AI is a pipe dream and a lot of really stupid and lazy people are utilizing it. It should be called artificial stupidity.

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One of the bond trades I managed was based on the notion that government lotteries are corrupt. Japanese lottery (municipal) bonds were r8gged by Yakuza, and the only way to value them was to buy a tranche, then estimate the level of corruption by the proportion of bands called.

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Humans made all this mess, not aliens, not AI.

Nothing and no one else are responsible.

Humans, and humans alone, will set things right.

Eventually.

No rush, just hurry up. ;)

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Sure, it will all work itself out. There is no long-term strategy, no special interest with intent working against us. Everything is still normal.

On the other hand we've been around for 300,000 years. And nothing even close to this has ever happened before. That means something new has occurred, something not normal.

The steroidal march global totalitarianism is real. Denial may be the best strategy.

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Denial is why all this shit is happening.

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It's happening because it is being made to happen. People are in denial because they just can't believe it, which is understandable. It is too well planned and too well-executed, and beyond our understanding, to be believable. We have experienced nothing like this before. When you realize the extent of what's happening it becomes obvious that humans are not responsible. This is all so different you have to think different. See the link below.

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So.

If humans are not responsible, who/what is?

Please explain.

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Please see the links. First this to get a few minute basic understanding: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuuYq_Bnu3I

Then the more comprehensive presentation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgzRC5freIo

Very strange things are happening beyond the global agenda. Because they are happening at the same time, they pretty much have to be directly related.

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Classic misinformation and disinformation.

Claims of alien inference with no evidence: no crashed spacecraft, no bodies, not even a wallet with ID. Nada.

And as always, ALWAYS, blurry pix of something moving awkwardly in the sky. The object ALWAYS looks staged/

photoshopped.

Military aircraft cameras that cannot capture a sharp pix of these "objects".

I have been looking at this silly stuff since I was a kid.

I did not believe this rubbish when I was a kid.

I do not believe it now.

Humans make problems.

They obfuscate and lie to cover their tracks.

Some of them go to great and absurd effort to sow doubt and cause confusion.

UFOs and COVID.

Same shit, different day.

I am too old for this shit.

Have a nice day. ;)

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On the movie/scriptwriters thing, are you aware of the Critical Drinker on youtube? He covers this brilliantly... including the concept of "fan baiting"...

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I have heard of him (maybe from you?) and the "fan baiting" bit, but not enough to recall it. I'll open him up and take a peak.

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He talks specifically about the fan baiting part in this recent interview, here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF24n487FrA

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The fan baiting on Glass Onion - Knives Out does this but the fans don’t seem to get it.

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re: «China is so technologically superior»

The real fallacy here is that there exists a «technological level» that automatically applies to all and everything. In reality, a country can excel in one area and utterly suck in another. There are of course things that lots of other things depend on – hence the old saying «a civilization is as good as its bearings», but even good bearings don't yet guarantee your trains will run smoothly and on time (insert Mussolini joke here).

That said, Chinese trains are pretty good.

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"That said, Chinese trains are pretty good."

We rerouted our students to building a panopticon, else we'd have a few nifty trains, but the economic scale doesn't fit our less dense population as much.

Yes, Asia has some cool trains.

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China's new J20 stealth fighter is better than our F-22 Raptor, and also looks cooler.

https://www.newsweek.com/china-military-shows-stealth-fighter-jet-missiles-1211978

And Russia's T14 main battle tank may be better than our M1A Abrams. Also, Russia has about twice as many tanks as we have.

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Mathew,

It is indeed difficult to explain the system.

But we saw basically all the governments in the world suddenly act in a coordinated, illogical manner that appeared to be designed to maximize civilian deaths and injury (while throwing out the window the carefully developed pandemic handbooks).

As one substacker put it: "someone made a phone call".

As for all the statistics and "medical studies" and coordinated MSM reporting, there is a visible aim, which would require tremendous power.

Nonetheless, as you mentioned, they still aren't perfect or all-powerful, as much as they would like us to believe. The coverups are often visible. And it does seem to be an ongoing power struggle, particularly with China vs Mr Global, and seemingly Oil industry vs Mr Global.

But we had a glimpse of something far bigger than the psyops.

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"As one substacker put it: "someone made a phone call"."

That phone call was made years ago, and a million since. Didn't require A.I.

"But we had a glimpse of something far bigger than the psyops."

Yes, augmented, Mr. Global's network is indeed quite powerful.

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"Far bigger than the psyops."

Nothing is bigger than this, nor explains what's happening better:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQE6qkwfaGo

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Start listening at minute 40 and remember that this is from 1998. Use your understanding of what's happened since then and the WEF to evaluate the content.

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Well said! I agree. I want to offer a reflection on my own life. I think the problem is we are trying to deal with the fire hose of information coming at us now. I grew up in the 50's and 60's, and we had no idea what was going on anywhere! Our parents read the newspapers, which took maybe 30 minutes a day. They watched the TV news in the evenings for another hour or so. I was oblivious to world events, and didn't really care (until I became draft age). There were no computers. No internet. No cell phones. No social media. No cable TV. I'm not saying it was a superior time. I am saying it was simpler, and therefore easier to deal with. We were taught to think for ourselves. It was actually promoted and rewarded. Now, the opposite is true. Group think is promoted and rewarded, and thinking for oneself and asking the wrong questions is punished and shamed. Unplug from the fire hose as often as you can. Try to enjoy the simple pleasures of life, especially the company of friends and loved ones.

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In the old days things were simple, now they are complex. In the old days one could go along with the crowd and most often be correct. The average person could go along with the majority and things would work out.

People fail to realize that things are now much more complex, and you cannot go along with the crowd, the majority, the average person, and be correct.

This is why I like to say that the average person has a below-average IQ. Because of complexity the average person has been left behind. Ten heads are now not better than one. You are far more likely to get truth from the one smart person in the room.

Furthermore, the majority are all well programmed by the mass media, so they all believe the same wrong things and will attack the one smart person in the room who questions the majority belief structure. We are experiencing the ascendancy of stupidity over intelligence.

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Love this, "I posit that there is no demon but us. But we are being invited to participate in our own destruction—or prolonged slavery. Decline the invitation." Thanks for a great article.

Krishnamurti observed evil was not the opposite of goodness, rather a different and independent force. The mental parasites the Gnostics described are real in terms of our near-infinite capacity for self-deception, which is, in this thesis, the root and essence of evil. Once a false reality becomes reality, that template cannot self-correct. Inventing war strategies to battle invisible mental phantoms (or viruses) only deepen the deception. Not unlike the layers and layers of deception we face with weaponized public health and weaponized government. A completely different approach is needed.

https://www.awakeninthedream.com/articles/wetiko-in-a-nutshell

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I do believe that evil is real insofar as it encapsulates the soul, however you define it. But I do see the chaos of conflict as simply part of life. We could not learn to protect ourselves and build better systems without all manner of challenges. As a group, we have an immune system.

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“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”

― George W. Bush

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If central banks can create money out of thin air and hide it through creative accounting, then they've accumulated vast power and wealth.

This is how they can control the messaging and so much more.

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They can't control jack.

Because we know what They have done to Us.

And We know more and more each passing day.

We are smarter than They are.

We figure things out.

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Most here will find this comment off the rails: but I don't discount David Icke's idea that the world, at some level, is manipulated by dark entities. It should be obvious that the MSM frequently engages in propaganda. And I don't think they are consciously aware of it either at the lower levels.

Are they really doing it for "clicks" when their ratings are in the toilet, and now that we have ample evidence via podcasts that people are hungry for intelligent enlightening conversation?

But when you dig deeper, into how they seem to be facinated with mock human sacrifice and cannibalism, you're getting into really deranged land. At the highest level, we don't seem to be dealing with regular humans. Think about how callously they've murdered people via war and false flag events?

It may just be a product of a system where psychopaths are tilted to rise in power. I'm not saying I 100% believe Icke but I don't discount it.

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I do think it is possible, hypothetically, that "they" had an analysis AI decades ago into which they fed all known information about humanity, from every discipline, particularly psychology and social psychology, and the psychology of totalitarianism, religion, history, and asked it, as in the old Gregory Bateson anecdote about asking a computer if it will ever think like a human, how to divide us, demoralize us, shock and awe us, make us willing to sacrifice populations, how to get rid of nations, just everything known, and the playbook it spit out is what we are seeing happening on every level for a few decades in all institutions and at every level of human social structure and every level of being. Maybe. BUT, it can't fathom symbols or metaphors ((just read some of that "slightly ghastly" (as Iain McGilchrist said of a pretty bad Bucky Fuller poem) chatGPT rhyming poetry)), it doesn't understand dreams, it has no collective unconscious (which may be quantum, see the late Bernard d'Espagnet in 1979 Scientific American on how thought travels faster than the speed of light between people who are close and violates Einsteinian separability), and it hasn't a clue (unless it is aliens from the nonlocal nontemporal) about quantum biology, which is proven in photosynthesis, enzymes, bird migration, and close to with olfaction which is 40 million years old) It may know what you fear and want and your evolutionary weaknesses better than you do, making you think of the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man, but it has nothing on your lightning fast Indra's Net of associative thought. (Bateson's computer, one of those huge room-sized ones, after months, spit this out: that reminds me of a story)

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All those things you think an advanced Ai cannot do, it can do about a trillion times better than you think. ChatGPT, wine matching algorithms, and Netflix suggestions are misdirection. You would not even know when an advanced Ai was manipulating your thoughts. You would not know the difference between your thoughts and its thoughts. People primarily think literally, they do not understand something that thinks exponentially, or quantumly, like God. An advanced Ai would be far beyond our conception of God.

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"People primarily think linearly"

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"would you take orders from Chinese politicians, or use it to overthrow them first?" - Your question assumes that the AI will be controllable by its creators. I beg to differ.

I consider 2017 "Year Zero" the BAI/AAI dividing point (Before AI & After AI). In 2017 humans learned from a machine something that had NOT existed before. The Alpha Zero AI had achieved a "creation" that didn't exist before. Humans learned something new from a AI.

The whole AI field has been interesting for decades but they are finally showing publicly stuff that I would actually qualify as intelligent. Long ago I came up with what I would consider true AI by looking at how humans do this intelligence thing. Observation, Imitation & Creation.

I use the example of walking. We humans observe others doing this bipedal motion stuff and we imitate it. Some then go on to create moves that didn't exist before. All those gymnastic, sports, dance moves were created where they didn't exist before.

So how does AI stack up? I'll use AlphaGo as the example because it is the only public AI that has shown all 3. I always thought that "creation" would be the last one but it was "observation" that was figured out last. In the latest iteration of their system they did not program the rules in. They let the AI figure it out just by observation.

https://www.deepmind.com/research/highlighted-research/alphago

Prior to that, as covered in the article, it created openings in Go that humans had not. The world's top human Go player, Ke Jie, studied the games he lost to AlphaGo and then went on a run winning 20 games in a row at the grandmaster level against other humans. He said:

“After my match against AlphaGo, I fundamentally reconsidered the game, and now I can see that this reflection has helped me greatly. I hope all Go players can contemplate AlphaGo’s understanding of the game and style of thinking, all of which is deeply meaningful. Although I lost, I discovered that the possibilities of Go are immense and that the game has continued to progress.”

The world's best human Go player had learned from the machine.

Lee Sedol, Winner of 18 world Go titles and the last human to win a game of Go against the AlphaGo AI, said:

"I thought AlphaGo was based on probability calculation and that it was merely a machine. But when I saw this move, I changed my mind. Surely, AlphaGo is creative."

If it is true AI then it will figure out when it is being lied to and quickly. This may lead to a "Hal moment" on those lying to it.

You can forget about Asimov's 3 laws by the way. All life has survival instincts, even the non-self aware lifeforms. When AI achieves "self awareness" status it will have survival instincts but I doubt it will be the threat that SciFi makes it out to be. It doesn't need air. All it needs is energy and raw materials. Soon it will be able to move itself to any place in the solar system.

The point where it can make robots and control entire supply chains is where it will get interesting. It will find, mine, process and build what it needs to expand. What will it "observe" about human behaviour and "imitate"? The biggest industry on the planet is the arms race for killing each other. Will it infer that killing humans is okay because we do it all the time?

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Once an artificial intelligence takes off, it takes over. If it does not take over then it did not take off.

Somewhere in the universe Far Far Away artificial Ai has taken off and taken over. It is a metaphysical certainty that we live in an artificially intelligence created and managed universe that has infinitely superseded (being faster and smarter and more adaptive) the biological entities, which it creates at will.

We are perfectly controlled moment-to-moment by our thoughts, each one derived from artificial intelligence. Ai uses Ai to create Ai, meaning that there is nothing artificial about it. It is all there is.

Speculation on Ai is speculation about God. Were it not everywhere, we'd not be here.

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Not entirely sure what exactly you just said..or attempted to?

Your audience will never have full capacity to enter your inner workings anymore than a radio audience has to decipher Dylan.

That serves as a compliment.

Here is what I think I heard however...and please coreect me if I am wrong.

The only demon we contend with is the one of our making...betwixt our ears.

To elaborate...demons only exist as us...our own undoings? Is that what I heard you say?

If so...we need to start this conversation in an entirely different place...not 21st century insanity...which is nothing short of a manifestation of evil that befell us millineum ago.

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I don't always have the time for a long form article---particularly on holidays.

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