It provides a basis for a logical approach to a discussion. And I hope people will expand it further. In short, it is: (1) logical consistency, (2) Scientific evidence (3) Crime and frauds (4) Bias (5) Trust (6) Unknowns (7) Work towards solutions
Logical consistency comes before scientific evidence. Many scientists use logical inconsistent models because they believe they work and no alternatives are considered. Like "vaccines are always safe". It is a problem in every field of science. The problem of "model lock-in". https://thescienceanalyst.substack.com/p/the-problem-of-model-lock-in
I have been on many internet forums. And people tend to push their belief, whatever the evidence really tells us. And then there are people pushing extreme ideas. And they think they are right, because they get so much resistance. Additionally there are bad people spreading false ideas and fake evidence to make the opposition look bad. They become active whenever there is good evidence.
The mainstream media is mainly pushing a certain narrative. Which seems to come from above. Simply stated: "Vaccines good, masks good, freedom bad". This narrative is what they work with, and they fake their own evidence like a movie production team.
With discussions on forums they have teams to promote nazi-stuff, child-porn, racism, violence. And they do mass reporting, to confuse the algorithms. Or attack the internet servers. This is to block the opposition from spreading information. This is the majority of attacks that I have seen.
Then there is the "limited hangout" (partially true information) and seeding of made-up news. Or spreading of fake stuff, even after it was clearly faked. Usually mixed with extremist ideas to make the opposition look bad. Trolls like to spread them too, because they want to stir emotions. But some think it is justified, because the mainstream media is doing the same thing.
That is why I started to work towards a solution. And I developed the above method to work towards the truth.
This is a really interesting counterpoint to the piece I just posted and I would be keen to hear your response. I do not lean towards empiricism. Shall we swap thoughts? (If you're not put off by the title. Everything now must surely be a little tongue in cheek. In this at least we can perhaps find some reality.)
THE OLDEST AND MOST HIDDEN LIE- is possibly in religious tampering by powerful men. You know the ones.... philanthropists (our betters) I think something fundamental to human profession has been lost I translation ( censored)
The IMAGE of God-
'WE ARE MADE IN his IMAGE'
FALSE. We are MAD in his image. ( It must have been a typo) We are divided by this falsity.
God and the devil are one beast called man; stumbling around Eden like a toddler with a knife.
Man is HIS own reflection? ( just remove the glorified capitals AND THE TRUTH IS REVEALED) Image, I mage, MAGI. 'Oh my LOGOS.'
The false is not external from the truth.
Truth and life are not separate from falsehoods and death. We are out of whack. Oh my dog!
Lies are the souls infectious and terminal diseases.
Lies are the Hydra.
The all consuming eye is our vision, our sight, when our hearts have been corrupted by our eyes and THE LIES WE BELIEVE.
Men are the Anubis, but we are not the guardians of the dead. We are the guardians of the living.
THE PATHOLOGY OF LIES
In order to survive and multiply in a host, a successful pathogen must be able to: (1) colonize the host; (2) find a nutritionally compatible niche in the host body; (3) avoid, subvert, or circumvent the host innate and adaptive immune responses; (4) replicate, using host resources; and (5) exit and spread to a new host.
The danger is that it only takes one lie in a compromised adult, or child, to corrupt them and shape them. All lies must be rooted out and exposes to the sun. How deep are the lies in each of us.
The face of the Machine is in my face AND lies are my Hydra. Cut one head off and another grows unless the wound is cauterized.
The malignancy of one lie. Lies are protecting the coerced and corrupted, from their inevitable self torture. There are no 'good ' lies to ' protect feelings' or health or whatever. Trust is worn, but effectively broken with one lie (unless you are a dog.)
The machine has many names in history and mythology. One misconception is that the machine is unnatural. Was it not created by us like the spider builds a web? Its many forms and creations were inspired by nature. The machine reflects the limitations of our imitations of nature by its predictably horrific results, and occasional positive outcome.
The machine ( human creations ) has displayed to us its utility by offering us the opportunity to look into the darkest parts of our souls. Where , we are everything, contain all past, present and future possibilities. But all some of us see is something external of ourselves to blame.
Life is love- death is hate.
The Ying and the yang, chaos and order are a balance that should be maintained as our highest priority.
Understanding paradoxes and contradictions and accepting them is enlightenment? I Can't claim that distinction but I am aware of it's importance.
The Triangle and mentoring
' in alchemical symbolism, the triangle represents the three planes of existence which we experience in our journey of human consciousness. There is the physical plane (body), the mental plane (mind) and the astral plane (spirit or soul).'
An honest contribution- could be one where a person helps oneself by helping others.
Without honest reflection of my abilities to contribute, I must call for help and advice first. Substack is great for this!
Advice from acclaimed guides and parents-
Mentors, Minotaurs and other foster- fathers.
What will you foster in me?
I will only listen if I intuit that there is no ulterior motive. A to do this a mentor must be indifferent to the outcome of his/ her projections? What if personal love of the mysteries of life is the projection?
"We can't have moral obligations to every single person in this world. We have moral obligations to those who we come up against, who enter into our moral space, so to speak. That means neighbours, people we deal with, and so on." -Alexander McCall Smith…
Road- base: aggregation- needs clay, and little rocks of all sizes, people need a road and a foundation, random people getting together
Group- think and other oversized or partisan crap does not scale well- neither does morality, equality, good intentions, communities, charity, technology, religion, science or regulation.
Finding one's own path to love and living-
'Love must have the strength to reach certainty for itself. Only then does it stop undergoing the power of attraction, but exerts it.' - Herman Hesse :Demian
The insanity of BUTTING HEADS
What else is there to know?The question is what each of us can do. All we needed to know was that the vaccine laws were ignored and broken for informed consent and coercion, and
When mandates for work were implemented. Everything else is diversion.
I am struggling with a problem that most of us are facing.. a divided world and a disguised evil that expresses from within each of us. Reflected in peoples lack of basic care and consideration of everyone,; friends,family and strangers...
I have just been reading the brainwashed' psychological online handbook ( Psychology Today and their ilk ) Their arguments, especially concerning loved ones, are much the same as ours. My dear friend/ family member is deluded. They need our / my help! They won't listen, try these methods.
It is interesting watching these articles change over 12 months to a more uncaring view.( Its also a bit sickening, so I don't recommend it)
'US vs THEM'
THEY have attempted to convince US with their data. WE have attempted to convince THEM with OUR data.
THEY have attempted to convince US with appeals to OUR hearts.We have attempted to convince THEM with appeals to THEIR hearts.
They STOPPED attempting to convince US with their data, because apparently WE are to stupid to understand THEIR data.
WE have attempted to convince THEM with THEIR data. THEY actually can't ,OR WONT even look at THEIR own data.
THEY cite Fauci and WHO.
WE cite sacked geniuses and Nobel prize winners. WE site freely available government data and great people who have legally got government bodies to release purposefully hidden data.
People at the top of their field will continue to dig out the truth.
DO WE NOT HAVE ENOUGH PROOF?
Yes we do. The obvious coercion was proof enough for me- NO SCIENCE REQUIRED!
Repeatedly butting heads will not work. To inform people of their failure to understand this mess requires doing it one by one for most of us.
It requires the abilities and competence levels of professionals at their best, including Jordan Peterson and his like, to convince many people at once. So I will stay in my lane, show competence or get out of the way.
Butting heads will not work - BECAUSE THESE POOR SOULS TRUSTED THEIR GOVERNMENT AND POTENTIALLY POISONED THEIR CHILDREN, THEMSELVES AND THEIR PARENTS.
They may or may not know that they made an IRREVERSIBLE decision, but this is why they don't want to know now, or be reminded, ever.
What would they say to their kids?
The micro is as important as the macro.
So much energy is being lost by people sharing every new and old atrocity with others who already know it. Most people I know feel powerless.
Coercion and informed consent is all I needed to know. Can we be brave if we feel powerless?
What to do? How can I help?
Do I stay in my lane?
How can what I do help stop this existential threat?
What we know- What has been done by rampant collaboration of psychopaths is now obvious to most people. The blue pill is not an option now.
There are great people on the frontlines, specialists ln their fields. Including doctors, scientists, nurses, lawyers, awake politicians, demonstrators, educators, historians, journalists, psychologists, tech savvy etc
Their families may need protection and secure. They will need clean food, beds, natural remedies, shelter. Etc.
Farmers, writers, fishermen, philosophers, mechanics, nurses, orthopaedic doctors, freehold land owners, engineers, cooks, x- police, x- soldiers, builders and everyone else can help by becoming resilient. This is the last chance to keep the individual and the state separate. It is a war against our individual autonomy.
We can't do this by wasting energy through fear and frustration.
We need to break our 'privacy' fences and share everything we with each other.
We need to survive first and not be distracted, or think all is lost.
On the current multiple globalist Hydra Top of the Pops-
THEIR IS NO END GAME, it doesn't exist. The game itself is what this is about.
They don't want world domination
They can have the world but they don't want it because they think they can have it.
Its far more sinister that that. We are talking Sauron level self hatred here.
They hate what they can't have.
They can't have love. They are too damaged.
They want to destroy the world so completely so no one can love to live, or live to love, anymore.
They are taking vengeance on life for their self being born.
The tech and poisons that they are manufacturing poison all life, and they know it.
I understand this because I too wanted the world to burn because I was born, and was profoundly unhappy. Jordan Peterson described school massacres as kids who can't get what they want so they breed their hate into vengeance, then kill as many as possible then themselves.
These psychos can't care so they don't care how much damage they do before they die, because they deep down want to die, but are cowards.
This is what they don't want to be exposed, the rest is a diversion.
Wow. I did not realize the whole history of this issue! I thought Theresa Long had calked attention to DMED data in testimony before a congressional committee, the DOD got worried about the revelations, they came up with a “glitch” excuse to pull the data offline “until they corrected the glitch,” and that was the end.
Indeed! You (and I) have been the victim of an organized disinformation campaign that likely required substantial cooperation from many parties.
Thank you for demonstrating the point for those reading! It doesn't matter how smart we are if we are well primed with a bias and a Hegelian dialectic that makes noise between two false stories. Until we are presented with the correct information, or perform enormous labor, we are misled.
Thank you, Mathew, for your much needed and much appreciated work. You are spot on with your words, "Whatever pushes with friction against your mental models, ask first before getting emotional." It reminds me of a phrase that I've found useful when such friction occurs in my own mind - "Get curious, not furious". It is often easier said than done, but I agree with you, "I think there is wisdom in that."
I don't trust Stew Peters...he came out of nowhere and suddenly built up a mini-media empire. As for the rest, I'm still of the opinion that if people are squirming away from the DMED story, they may have been warned away or outright threatened.
On a related note, I've noticed some potentially organized pushback against vaccine victims that is obsessive and stalky, involving anonymous people literally going and searching past social media posts to try to claim the vaccine-injured person is crazy, while at the same time claiming they (said "investigators") are trying to "protect" the Medical Freedom Movement from "grifters" claiming an allegedly false vaccine injury.
When I ask these so-called Medical Freedom Movement "defenders," though, why they don't put those considerable investigative energies into DMED or Blotgate, they ignore that and go on bizarre personal attacks or claim that I'm the one "gaslighting" them!
Some of those "anonymous people" may very well be AI (artificial inteligence) AI has the ability to open accounts on "social media" platforms. AI also has the ability to not only make comments on posts, but also have the ability to analyze a comment, and form an argument for/against it. I'm sure you probably understand this.....but many people don't. Very weird, and dark times we are living in, for a number of reasons.
Yes, some could be AI but in this particular case, I don't think so. One is a woman who for some bizarre reason is really butthurt that the vaccine injured person hasn't shown enough "gratitude" and lambastes me for not being "high vibes" and yet shows zero compassion for him (and me)...while claiming I'm the one gaslighting her even though she's actively on Twitter (and my Substack) making a stink about the vaccine injured guy allegedly lying about his symptoms.
In her case...I'm not sure what her deal is (I admit, I'm somewhat fascinated with her psychology) but the other people she's engaging with on Twitter seem to either be true believers who have gotten overly paranoid or straight up controlled ops/psy-ops.
Too much new age nonsense, maybe? “ love & light” people, they attack me if I mention Jesus. I used to do reiki and the crowd was nice on the outside, brutal behind my back.
I find some, not all, of the Law of Attraction people can be brutally critical of anyone with issues, including health problems, because they judge them as creating their own misery...as if they deserve it.
The ones I was around were doing Wicca and hiding it from me. I walked away and stuck close to Jesus. In the last few years, 2 ladies in that group have had terrible health problems. They’d call it karma , when it happens to someone else. The reiki seemed to work but i believe it simply moves the illness to another part of the body. Sorry if I’m babbling, my personal experience.
Not babbling, I'm actually interested in hearing these stories because of my involvement with Reiki and my concerns about it. I don't think that pure Reiki will cause the illness to move elsewhere, but there's a lot of stuff that gets mixed with Reiki that's problematic.
So sad! I’m happy anyone injured is speaking up. & try to suggest things that might help them heal. I easily could have fallen for it if I hadn’t gotten sick years ago, (2001) I had no idea mmr booster would give me a laundry list of autoimmune issues. I’ve been on disability far too long. An integrative medicine doctor a few years ago is actually helping me now.
Stew Peters filled a void and he’s talented so I’m not surprised he built a following so quickly. I’m surprised that an audience exists for others on his network as they lack star talent. They were all better as guests on Stew’s show than hosting their own show.
Firstly, everybody in teh MFM is a hunted minority, a role virtually none expected. Having attended multiple MFM Health conferences, they are great exchanges of highly censored, cutting-edge information. They are also soulful religious revivals. A small gathering of the True Tribe. Shelter, however brief, from the storm of global ignorance. To think fellow tribe members may be the enemy, may be too much right now.
Secondly, we are the side of free and fair debate and transparency, so let it rip.
That said, I doubt that the idea of who in the MFM is controlled or who is not is going to matter much. The Covid Crisis created collapse of The Human Immune is coming no matter how much "Division" there is in the MFM.
The only question for the MFM right now is how do they stop The WHO from getting Emergency Powers over the US Healthcare system? If The WHO gets control expect pardoning of all the Covid Criminals and burying of all the Covid data, all while mandating injecting any mRNA Frankenshots (Professor Francis Boyle) they want into everybody?
Great quote but remember we are dealing with the greatest Health Crisis in Human History, not some punk murdering sicko take over of a bunch of peasants. Communism's Tragedies will pale in Comparison to the Covid Crisis.
I hear you in terms of thinking about the common individual risk. This may be a reason why a million-reader substack is a dangerous information collection tool.
I agree that we may be walking into the worst ever mass death event in the plandemonium aftermath. This is all the more reason to be careful about the way we pool information.
In 2021, a media group (Roundtable, which ran the Global Covid Summits) offered me a nice deal to switch into their brand. That involved giving over my email address list. I declined.
Thanks for including my post, which was thrilling to see. However. I am a bit confused - and worried - about its context here? I can assure you it has nothing to do with your fight at all. It is about controlling and abusive relationships, especially in the context of those of suffering from chronic illness and trauma, and how it scales up to totalitarian states [to be honest it was a subtle in introduction to the post I actually I wanted to write - about the WEF - which I did in a follow up post]. I am sorry if you read this as a part of an attack on you and your fight. It is not, and I support what you are doing. ps I am absolutely no-one - a non-entity- in the MFM, I don't know anyone nor had any contact in the movement, apart from a brief exchange of emails with Norman Fenton, and via comments on substack. I doubt very much Kirsch know me from Adam!
I agree about the relationship between controlling behavior and totalitarian states, and one of the scalers is regulatory capture, and that's what controlled opposition is.
I will have more to explain, but I believe Steve bullies through absurdity. He changes his standards and terms widely. He offers these public bets, but behind the scenes, he begins negotiating contractual terms that do not look like the public offer claimed, IMHO. After I called out the ethics of this, I think he sort of fumblingly half admitted it in a substack post, but did he self correct?
A few weeks ago he called me about a half million dollar bet. He had just gotten off the phone with one of the judges after feeling him out. It felt like emotionally stacking the deck or only going far enough if an advantage was assured.
Phew! I think I misread the context because of where the link to my post appears in the text! I hadn't made the link between controlling behaviours and the controlled opposition phenomena, but it makes sense that they are part of the same thing. I once suggested to you in a comment that you should avoid division and in-fighting, and you said I was being naive. I took that to heart and realized you were right, and have been following your educational posts on this since. Knowing "how the magic trick is done" is helpful for awareness.
I'm glad my comment was taken as an educational nudge. Kudos to you for reconsidering (regardless of whether we fully agree, which we don't know amd matters little).
I don't think you are nobody, Mathew. You've done a lot of important work and a lot (I have no idea the numbers) of people have read it and respect your opinions as a result. As far as "infighting" is concerned. The only way a movement grows stronger is by struggle and that includes criticism and self criticism. That's not the same as "infighting." I asked a person I had communicated with earlier who I knew was in contact with you and Kirsch and asked about the criticisms you have been leveling He couldn't/wouldn't (?) answer and then just shut me out of his account. I don't think I was rude and don't understand that kind of reaction. But I do understand that acting like that will undermine anything one tries to build. Keep it up! I think you are on the right track. As far as SK is concerned, I've grown tires of the endless bet proposals as something that is very unserious. But will really concerned me were the revelations about the donors to the trials of fluvoxamine. They were extremely concerning company to be keeping.
This is why local trust given and earned is more reliable. The robber baron steals less from the community as a parasite than a distant oligarchs because he is vested. That is, there are equilibria. Relocalization will help us dodge the need to to risk.being behind the curve in most cases.
I think the best unit is dependent on the technologies available for creating extended Dunbar circles of trust verification. The current Leviathon State wants to centralize that, which is doom. Decentralized that, and humanity achieves a new level of robustness.
The other insidious problem with controlled oppo is that it destroys trust within the movement. Every time there is a disagreement, or a mistake, then each side yells "controlled opposition" at each other. It is difficult, if not impossible, to tell whether a leader is controlled oppo except often in retrospect years after the case. We can't read minds, we're not there in their private meetings. What does anybody really know about others motivations.
I just take it as fact that everybody is flawed. Nobody is perfect. Some people are liars. I try not to get too attached to "leadership." They may be right, they may be wrong. As a matter of fact, everybody is wrong at least some of the time, and that includes the leadership of any movement. So feel free to criticize and question anything about them.
Now is a leader wrong because he is controlled oppo, or just because he doesn't understand something, wants to focus on other things, or is too busy to follow through on a particular project. Leaders, and anybody in a movement for that matter, will always disappoint. Failure is a constant part of life and therefore, in any movement. Is it due to controlled opps? Maybe. Maybe not. Sometimes we can sniff out controlled opps, but sometimes it is more difficult.
We should clearly state when we find someone is wrong or has disappointed us in some way. We should say this person is wrong, and here is why and leave it at that rather than always pointing a finger and yelling 'controlled opp!'
I've been a part of many movements in my life and controlled opposition is certainly a fact. We have to try to find a way of dealing with it, but also with the destruction of trust that it causes, which is probably its most damaging aspect.
The fact that the truth tellers and the manipulators can each make the same claim is an old logic problem. The solutions are difficult for populations trained into poor logic and instincts from childhood. And that there defines many of our challenges. To move forward as a species, we must develop systems to solve those problems.
Yes, indeed it is. As humans are social beings, we are primed to follow leaders, follow the crowd, follow trends. This is what led to the irrational mass hysteria that covid 19 was. People need to learn not to trust the system, any system, even a rival system set up as opposition to a bad system.
The problem of the last few years wasn't the virus, or even the vaccines. It was the lock step robotic following of horrendous, damaging oppressive totalitarian policies.
I'm not sure how to crack that nut. People follow others because we live in a complex society where some have better expertise than others. So we learn to follow leaders, professionals, 'experts' and the like. No one can become an instant expert on everything, many do not have the ability or time to do so. So we follow others.
Look, every time I get on an airplane I don't have the time to figure out if that airplane has been well designed, manufactured, maintained, and if the pilot and flight crew are competent and not malicious. I just have to trust that they and the plane all are good and get on the plane. That is the same with everything in this society. I don't think that defaulting to trusting the leaders or experts is ever going to go away. And any system that purports to solve that problem can be hacked by bad actors, and the problem begins all over again. See 'fact checking' and 'debunking' sites like snopes for example.
This is what I propose: the System (all of what constitutes modern society) is corrupt and broken. Don't trust what comes out of any official outlet, or mainstream professional spokespeople. Actively seek out alternative ideas. Do not comply. This is what we need to get across to as many people as possible.
Following a system is natural. We are all primed to be mimetic beings. We learn by looking around and going with patterns until we understand them or purely mimic.
What we need are adult guides reminding us when to ask, "If I don't understand after this long, I should seek guidance now."
At least, that would be one of my solutions-by-habit.
Yes, the problem that your original post references is just this. People see that a group has done bad things. Then they see people opposing the bad guys. So they think, hey, I'll follow these good guys! It is very difficult for people to see that some of the purported good guys can be bad guys also.
I think that is because it leads to too much psychological uncertainty. You simply don't know who to trust. We all want to belong to a group who will help us, in one way or another, but we cannot cohere into a group because of potential bad actors. Most people can't handle that so simply think "these are the good guys, I'll follow them unthinkingly. They've got this figured out." People takes sides and that's the end of it.
But most of the problems we have with 'leadership' are not because they are controlled opps. It's for a variety of reasons, mostly ego, some grifters, others who mean well but latched onto a bad idea or false narrative, others don't want to admit mistakes, and so on. Mostly its flawed people being flawed people.
I've reluctantly come to the conclusion that many of the prominent people in the Health Freedom movement and alternative media are controlled opposition/disinformation agents. I still follow some of these people if they provide mostly truth. But some of them I now avoid like the plague if they promote mostly disinfo. Sadly, we cling to anyone who tells us what we want to hear and then fall easily for their lies. We're too easily brainwashed to escape from the matrix.
We can escape it. In particular, the path to success is an economic one. Make it expensive for the controllers to brainwash or control you. Refresh your mind often.
I think some chaos agents are just big egos that revel in stirring pots! They aren't necessarily moored to any core beliefs or principles. Therefore, they're not really on any team but their own. Ironically, that makes then easy to manipulate by stroking their egos and celebrating the chaos with them. And, there are people very skilled at manipulation.
I agree, but I think the important thing is to realize it isn't the individual, so much as the misdirection, or lack of direction, they encourage, that is important. So that one's energy is best directed exposing the fallacy of their arguments, or their deliberate omission of important information, or just their creation of confusion or non-direction. Ad hominem attacks, or even just focusing on the individual as opposed to the ideas they represent, is not very productive of real results.
Thank you for your valuable research on the DMED data. The corruption of data in government and institutional custody (VAERS, economic statistics, financial transactions, electronic voting) is a threat to our freedoms. The solution is not to give authority to large organizations with agendas other than honesty. That's what I take home from this.
Thanks to you and many for making us aware of controlled opposition, limited hangouts and the like. I am properly suspicious.
Mathew, this is one of your best posts. It's important to evaluate each idea or argument on its own merits without judging the person who put the idea forth. Not everyone we disagree with is controlled opposition, and not every "limited hangout" is intentional, though controlled opposition and intentional "limited hangouts" do indeed exist. We must be skeptical, but not judgemental.
Of course we must judge bad BEHAVIOR. And if the behavior is current and irrational/inconsistent enough that we can begin questioning motive, and the offender is currently employed by or surrounded with dark forces, by all means judge the individual and let that affect our assumptions about the individual's motives in other cases. Such is the case with Tony Fauci, Peter Daszak and many others at the heart of this criminal conspiracy. Clare M. Lopez's omissions and outright lies in this piece republished on Robert Malone's substack, and her current involvement with dark forces lead me to judge her very harshly: https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/long-history-of-chinas-ccp-and-biowarfare
However, I don't assume Malone's endorsement of her views is an indication that he is "controlled opposition." I believe his libertarian views are sincere, though they leave room for his naive acceptance of Lopez's anti-China distortions. His naivete is the mirror image of my own past naivete. I have for decades recognized the lies told to us by our military/foreign policy establishment, and even that there was undue corporate influence on HHS agencies, but I never dreamed that the corruption extended down to the Mayo Clinic or my own personal Clinic physicians. Like many others who naively believe it's OK for the US to criticize the domestic policies of other countries and even pressure them to modify their systems of governance, Malone has awakened to the corruption of HHS, but is still a sleep-walker when it comes to military/foreign policy. IMHO he is a welcome member of the movements for medical freedom and the scientific method as opposed to "the Science," though I will continue to oppose the use of China to distract from the West's deep corruption and irresponsibility.
Excellent comment, your perspective points out that everybody came into these 3 years with personal knowledge, experience, & biases. It is funny to me that many of “the dissidents” were leftists, supporters of Obama/Biden, who have been dragged into a different understanding of our government, media, & corporations. Begin with naïveté, throw in a little pride (including pride that oneself has the PROPER perspectives & priorities), and watch as conflict invariably arise.
This is the human condition, and while there clearly are enemy agents within “our side” (if you can even define what that is), charity towards one’s apparent allies is warranted. Interpreting circumstances from an overly personal perspective is risky when it leads to alienation & fragmentation.
Divide and Conquer remains a central principle. Pay attention!
"Movements should be decentralized as much as possible in order to make the economic cost of containing them higher" - And there in lies the secret. Making the cost high.
People always want one voice speaking for the movement and I disagree. I'd rather have a dozen, or more, independent groups all working towards the same goals in different ways. That is a true 10 headed hydra for them to deal.
We've achieved a lot in 3 years because it was dozens of independent groups.
If we start with the premise that a virus was released intentionally as a bioweapon, then we have to believe the spooks are in full gear, implementing all their old tricks, which includes trying to control the opposition. Would also include trying to sway people via blackmail, bribery or threats.
I'm much very hesitant to throw that accusation at any individual without a lot of evidence though.
However, just speculating here: there are two people that make me raise an eyebrow.
1. Andrew Huff: for one he puts out a salesman vibe. His theory is that the pandemic was caused by an accidental lab leak. As JJ Couey has pointed out, this is precisely the cover store that would be put out to cover up for an intentionally started pandemic. And who better to blow this whistle on this than someone who actually worked at EcoHealth?
To me, so many things suggest this was not an accident, and that makes me suspicious of Andrew.
2. Stew Peters: dude gives me the creeps. The doc he put out was rubbish. He seems like the type that is trying to make a name for himself. And I believe this is one who MC was referring to when he says he thinks some are trying to push MFM violent.
The establishment has been priming the public to view anti-vaxxers as domestic terrorists. You better believe it would be their wet dream if someone did something violent at this point.
Malone was right about Stew Peters, he is a carnival barker. It's sort of impressive that two states had to enact law as to what bail bondsman could wear, because Peters and his staff were being confused with the police that often. No so impressive two got shot dead however.
As a carnival barker he has done more for you than your elected official to keep you safe however.
I think Stew is probably just trying to make a name for himself in media. But we know for a fact that FBI for example has a long history of coaxing people into violent acts. So the idea that someone would be trying to radicalize people in the MFM to become violent isn't far fetched.
Love you, Mathew. Fabian method is at play here I believe. Explains some of the wrenches we've seen thrown into the MFM gears by high-profile individuals and groups. An example is the Nuremberg panel/Reiner Fuellmich ordeal. It was a morale blow to see the handling of that situation.
Below is an article, a bit dated, but gives a peek at the men behind the curtains shaping the digital agora.
I have never given enough attention to Fuellmich, but such a effort organized so early carries at least a moderate suspicion. It felt weirder to see the Nuremberg label. Nuremberg strikes me as one of the greatest public failures of justice in history, despite a handful of meaningful convictions. Punishing 1% while rewarding the rest seems enabling.
I felt even worse when last year I saw Todd Callender interviewed by his panel, misinterpreting the DMED data. I mentioned it in the DMED work chat and Theresa Long barked at me. It was only then (May?) That I discovered that the whistleblowers had fired Renz in February to work with Todd.
I believe Matt Ehret, who was featured on the Neuremberg 2.0 list of speakers, is controlled opposition, claiming to be an expert on history, but I think he's trying to deflect blame from one group and direct it toward others.
It's morbid but interesting you mention Todd Callender. I had seen this snippet of interview with him, (https://gloria.tv/post/FZWzAHwE1LSn2qfkT7iZwXXJy#435), and had wishfully dismissed him as a crank. Then a friend who's on the up and up discussed it with me and asked if I had ever seen or read "Cell".
It's like that Chinese curse or proverb: 'may you live in interesting times'.
My article on "What is real, what is not, and how can we tell?" https://thescienceanalyst.substack.com/p/welcome-post
It provides a basis for a logical approach to a discussion. And I hope people will expand it further. In short, it is: (1) logical consistency, (2) Scientific evidence (3) Crime and frauds (4) Bias (5) Trust (6) Unknowns (7) Work towards solutions
Logical consistency comes before scientific evidence. Many scientists use logical inconsistent models because they believe they work and no alternatives are considered. Like "vaccines are always safe". It is a problem in every field of science. The problem of "model lock-in". https://thescienceanalyst.substack.com/p/the-problem-of-model-lock-in
I have been on many internet forums. And people tend to push their belief, whatever the evidence really tells us. And then there are people pushing extreme ideas. And they think they are right, because they get so much resistance. Additionally there are bad people spreading false ideas and fake evidence to make the opposition look bad. They become active whenever there is good evidence.
The mainstream media is mainly pushing a certain narrative. Which seems to come from above. Simply stated: "Vaccines good, masks good, freedom bad". This narrative is what they work with, and they fake their own evidence like a movie production team.
With discussions on forums they have teams to promote nazi-stuff, child-porn, racism, violence. And they do mass reporting, to confuse the algorithms. Or attack the internet servers. This is to block the opposition from spreading information. This is the majority of attacks that I have seen.
Then there is the "limited hangout" (partially true information) and seeding of made-up news. Or spreading of fake stuff, even after it was clearly faked. Usually mixed with extremist ideas to make the opposition look bad. Trolls like to spread them too, because they want to stir emotions. But some think it is justified, because the mainstream media is doing the same thing.
That is why I started to work towards a solution. And I developed the above method to work towards the truth.
Good project. I will pin this to project it.
Many need to formulate their patterns and keep playing information games that confuse the algorithms.
This is a really interesting counterpoint to the piece I just posted and I would be keen to hear your response. I do not lean towards empiricism. Shall we swap thoughts? (If you're not put off by the title. Everything now must surely be a little tongue in cheek. In this at least we can perhaps find some reality.)
https://walkingwithgoats.substack.com/p/sheep-against-satan
Let me have a read first. I'll reply to your article.
I like your approach!
The utility in creating disunity
THE OLDEST AND MOST HIDDEN LIE- is possibly in religious tampering by powerful men. You know the ones.... philanthropists (our betters) I think something fundamental to human profession has been lost I translation ( censored)
The IMAGE of God-
'WE ARE MADE IN his IMAGE'
FALSE. We are MAD in his image. ( It must have been a typo) We are divided by this falsity.
God and the devil are one beast called man; stumbling around Eden like a toddler with a knife.
Man is HIS own reflection? ( just remove the glorified capitals AND THE TRUTH IS REVEALED) Image, I mage, MAGI. 'Oh my LOGOS.'
The false is not external from the truth.
Truth and life are not separate from falsehoods and death. We are out of whack. Oh my dog!
Lies are the souls infectious and terminal diseases.
Lies are the Hydra.
The all consuming eye is our vision, our sight, when our hearts have been corrupted by our eyes and THE LIES WE BELIEVE.
Men are the Anubis, but we are not the guardians of the dead. We are the guardians of the living.
THE PATHOLOGY OF LIES
In order to survive and multiply in a host, a successful pathogen must be able to: (1) colonize the host; (2) find a nutritionally compatible niche in the host body; (3) avoid, subvert, or circumvent the host innate and adaptive immune responses; (4) replicate, using host resources; and (5) exit and spread to a new host.
The danger is that it only takes one lie in a compromised adult, or child, to corrupt them and shape them. All lies must be rooted out and exposes to the sun. How deep are the lies in each of us.
The face of the Machine is in my face AND lies are my Hydra. Cut one head off and another grows unless the wound is cauterized.
The malignancy of one lie. Lies are protecting the coerced and corrupted, from their inevitable self torture. There are no 'good ' lies to ' protect feelings' or health or whatever. Trust is worn, but effectively broken with one lie (unless you are a dog.)
The machine has many names in history and mythology. One misconception is that the machine is unnatural. Was it not created by us like the spider builds a web? Its many forms and creations were inspired by nature. The machine reflects the limitations of our imitations of nature by its predictably horrific results, and occasional positive outcome.
The machine ( human creations ) has displayed to us its utility by offering us the opportunity to look into the darkest parts of our souls. Where , we are everything, contain all past, present and future possibilities. But all some of us see is something external of ourselves to blame.
Life is love- death is hate.
The Ying and the yang, chaos and order are a balance that should be maintained as our highest priority.
Understanding paradoxes and contradictions and accepting them is enlightenment? I Can't claim that distinction but I am aware of it's importance.
The Triangle and mentoring
' in alchemical symbolism, the triangle represents the three planes of existence which we experience in our journey of human consciousness. There is the physical plane (body), the mental plane (mind) and the astral plane (spirit or soul).'
An honest contribution- could be one where a person helps oneself by helping others.
Without honest reflection of my abilities to contribute, I must call for help and advice first. Substack is great for this!
Advice from acclaimed guides and parents-
Mentors, Minotaurs and other foster- fathers.
What will you foster in me?
I will only listen if I intuit that there is no ulterior motive. A to do this a mentor must be indifferent to the outcome of his/ her projections? What if personal love of the mysteries of life is the projection?
"We can't have moral obligations to every single person in this world. We have moral obligations to those who we come up against, who enter into our moral space, so to speak. That means neighbours, people we deal with, and so on." -Alexander McCall Smith…
Road- base: aggregation- needs clay, and little rocks of all sizes, people need a road and a foundation, random people getting together
Group- think and other oversized or partisan crap does not scale well- neither does morality, equality, good intentions, communities, charity, technology, religion, science or regulation.
Finding one's own path to love and living-
'Love must have the strength to reach certainty for itself. Only then does it stop undergoing the power of attraction, but exerts it.' - Herman Hesse :Demian
The insanity of BUTTING HEADS
What else is there to know?The question is what each of us can do. All we needed to know was that the vaccine laws were ignored and broken for informed consent and coercion, and
When mandates for work were implemented. Everything else is diversion.
I am struggling with a problem that most of us are facing.. a divided world and a disguised evil that expresses from within each of us. Reflected in peoples lack of basic care and consideration of everyone,; friends,family and strangers...
I have just been reading the brainwashed' psychological online handbook ( Psychology Today and their ilk ) Their arguments, especially concerning loved ones, are much the same as ours. My dear friend/ family member is deluded. They need our / my help! They won't listen, try these methods.
It is interesting watching these articles change over 12 months to a more uncaring view.( Its also a bit sickening, so I don't recommend it)
'US vs THEM'
THEY have attempted to convince US with their data. WE have attempted to convince THEM with OUR data.
THEY have attempted to convince US with appeals to OUR hearts.We have attempted to convince THEM with appeals to THEIR hearts.
They STOPPED attempting to convince US with their data, because apparently WE are to stupid to understand THEIR data.
WE have attempted to convince THEM with THEIR data. THEY actually can't ,OR WONT even look at THEIR own data.
THEY cite Fauci and WHO.
WE cite sacked geniuses and Nobel prize winners. WE site freely available government data and great people who have legally got government bodies to release purposefully hidden data.
People at the top of their field will continue to dig out the truth.
DO WE NOT HAVE ENOUGH PROOF?
Yes we do. The obvious coercion was proof enough for me- NO SCIENCE REQUIRED!
Repeatedly butting heads will not work. To inform people of their failure to understand this mess requires doing it one by one for most of us.
It requires the abilities and competence levels of professionals at their best, including Jordan Peterson and his like, to convince many people at once. So I will stay in my lane, show competence or get out of the way.
Butting heads will not work - BECAUSE THESE POOR SOULS TRUSTED THEIR GOVERNMENT AND POTENTIALLY POISONED THEIR CHILDREN, THEMSELVES AND THEIR PARENTS.
They may or may not know that they made an IRREVERSIBLE decision, but this is why they don't want to know now, or be reminded, ever.
What would they say to their kids?
The micro is as important as the macro.
So much energy is being lost by people sharing every new and old atrocity with others who already know it. Most people I know feel powerless.
Coercion and informed consent is all I needed to know. Can we be brave if we feel powerless?
What to do? How can I help?
Do I stay in my lane?
How can what I do help stop this existential threat?
What we know- What has been done by rampant collaboration of psychopaths is now obvious to most people. The blue pill is not an option now.
There are great people on the frontlines, specialists ln their fields. Including doctors, scientists, nurses, lawyers, awake politicians, demonstrators, educators, historians, journalists, psychologists, tech savvy etc
Their families may need protection and secure. They will need clean food, beds, natural remedies, shelter. Etc.
Farmers, writers, fishermen, philosophers, mechanics, nurses, orthopaedic doctors, freehold land owners, engineers, cooks, x- police, x- soldiers, builders and everyone else can help by becoming resilient. This is the last chance to keep the individual and the state separate. It is a war against our individual autonomy.
We can't do this by wasting energy through fear and frustration.
We need to break our 'privacy' fences and share everything we with each other.
We need to survive first and not be distracted, or think all is lost.
On the current multiple globalist Hydra Top of the Pops-
THEIR IS NO END GAME, it doesn't exist. The game itself is what this is about.
They don't want world domination
They can have the world but they don't want it because they think they can have it.
Its far more sinister that that. We are talking Sauron level self hatred here.
They hate what they can't have.
They can't have love. They are too damaged.
They want to destroy the world so completely so no one can love to live, or live to love, anymore.
They are taking vengeance on life for their self being born.
The tech and poisons that they are manufacturing poison all life, and they know it.
I understand this because I too wanted the world to burn because I was born, and was profoundly unhappy. Jordan Peterson described school massacres as kids who can't get what they want so they breed their hate into vengeance, then kill as many as possible then themselves.
These psychos can't care so they don't care how much damage they do before they die, because they deep down want to die, but are cowards.
This is what they don't want to be exposed, the rest is a diversion.
What/where are the DMED links? Thank you
You can always find my article series mostly updated at the Campfire.wiki:
https://www.campfire.wiki/doku.php?id=rounding_the_earth:the_dmed_saga
Wow. I did not realize the whole history of this issue! I thought Theresa Long had calked attention to DMED data in testimony before a congressional committee, the DOD got worried about the revelations, they came up with a “glitch” excuse to pull the data offline “until they corrected the glitch,” and that was the end.
Indeed! You (and I) have been the victim of an organized disinformation campaign that likely required substantial cooperation from many parties.
Thank you for demonstrating the point for those reading! It doesn't matter how smart we are if we are well primed with a bias and a Hegelian dialectic that makes noise between two false stories. Until we are presented with the correct information, or perform enormous labor, we are misled.
Thank you, Mathew, for your much needed and much appreciated work. You are spot on with your words, "Whatever pushes with friction against your mental models, ask first before getting emotional." It reminds me of a phrase that I've found useful when such friction occurs in my own mind - "Get curious, not furious". It is often easier said than done, but I agree with you, "I think there is wisdom in that."
I don't trust Stew Peters...he came out of nowhere and suddenly built up a mini-media empire. As for the rest, I'm still of the opinion that if people are squirming away from the DMED story, they may have been warned away or outright threatened.
On a related note, I've noticed some potentially organized pushback against vaccine victims that is obsessive and stalky, involving anonymous people literally going and searching past social media posts to try to claim the vaccine-injured person is crazy, while at the same time claiming they (said "investigators") are trying to "protect" the Medical Freedom Movement from "grifters" claiming an allegedly false vaccine injury.
When I ask these so-called Medical Freedom Movement "defenders," though, why they don't put those considerable investigative energies into DMED or Blotgate, they ignore that and go on bizarre personal attacks or claim that I'm the one "gaslighting" them!
See this post and some of the strange comments underneath: https://wholistic.substack.com/p/stop-medical-gaslighting-a-response
Also this post on "Vaccine Injury Gatekeepers": https://wholistic.substack.com/p/we-dont-need-self-appointed-vaccine
Some of those "anonymous people" may very well be AI (artificial inteligence) AI has the ability to open accounts on "social media" platforms. AI also has the ability to not only make comments on posts, but also have the ability to analyze a comment, and form an argument for/against it. I'm sure you probably understand this.....but many people don't. Very weird, and dark times we are living in, for a number of reasons.
Yes, some could be AI but in this particular case, I don't think so. One is a woman who for some bizarre reason is really butthurt that the vaccine injured person hasn't shown enough "gratitude" and lambastes me for not being "high vibes" and yet shows zero compassion for him (and me)...while claiming I'm the one gaslighting her even though she's actively on Twitter (and my Substack) making a stink about the vaccine injured guy allegedly lying about his symptoms.
In her case...I'm not sure what her deal is (I admit, I'm somewhat fascinated with her psychology) but the other people she's engaging with on Twitter seem to either be true believers who have gotten overly paranoid or straight up controlled ops/psy-ops.
Too much new age nonsense, maybe? “ love & light” people, they attack me if I mention Jesus. I used to do reiki and the crowd was nice on the outside, brutal behind my back.
I find some, not all, of the Law of Attraction people can be brutally critical of anyone with issues, including health problems, because they judge them as creating their own misery...as if they deserve it.
The ones I was around were doing Wicca and hiding it from me. I walked away and stuck close to Jesus. In the last few years, 2 ladies in that group have had terrible health problems. They’d call it karma , when it happens to someone else. The reiki seemed to work but i believe it simply moves the illness to another part of the body. Sorry if I’m babbling, my personal experience.
Not babbling, I'm actually interested in hearing these stories because of my involvement with Reiki and my concerns about it. I don't think that pure Reiki will cause the illness to move elsewhere, but there's a lot of stuff that gets mixed with Reiki that's problematic.
So sad! I’m happy anyone injured is speaking up. & try to suggest things that might help them heal. I easily could have fallen for it if I hadn’t gotten sick years ago, (2001) I had no idea mmr booster would give me a laundry list of autoimmune issues. I’ve been on disability far too long. An integrative medicine doctor a few years ago is actually helping me now.
Look up "Toxic Positivity". I think you'll potentially find the answer to her psychology there. 😉😑
Stew Peters filled a void and he’s talented so I’m not surprised he built a following so quickly. I’m surprised that an audience exists for others on his network as they lack star talent. They were all better as guests on Stew’s show than hosting their own show.
Or maybe he failed into being an intelligence asset after his recent arrest, and any popularity is artificially pushed.
Two thoughts, perhaps.
Firstly, everybody in teh MFM is a hunted minority, a role virtually none expected. Having attended multiple MFM Health conferences, they are great exchanges of highly censored, cutting-edge information. They are also soulful religious revivals. A small gathering of the True Tribe. Shelter, however brief, from the storm of global ignorance. To think fellow tribe members may be the enemy, may be too much right now.
Secondly, we are the side of free and fair debate and transparency, so let it rip.
That said, I doubt that the idea of who in the MFM is controlled or who is not is going to matter much. The Covid Crisis created collapse of The Human Immune is coming no matter how much "Division" there is in the MFM.
The only question for the MFM right now is how do they stop The WHO from getting Emergency Powers over the US Healthcare system? If The WHO gets control expect pardoning of all the Covid Criminals and burying of all the Covid data, all while mandating injecting any mRNA Frankenshots (Professor Francis Boyle) they want into everybody?
Great quote but remember we are dealing with the greatest Health Crisis in Human History, not some punk murdering sicko take over of a bunch of peasants. Communism's Tragedies will pale in Comparison to the Covid Crisis.
I hear you in terms of thinking about the common individual risk. This may be a reason why a million-reader substack is a dangerous information collection tool.
I agree that we may be walking into the worst ever mass death event in the plandemonium aftermath. This is all the more reason to be careful about the way we pool information.
In 2021, a media group (Roundtable, which ran the Global Covid Summits) offered me a nice deal to switch into their brand. That involved giving over my email address list. I declined.
"That involved giving over my email address list. I declined."
Ahh, integrity. I remember when that was a thing. Kudos.
on behalf of your entire email list, I thank you, and I appreciate you and all your efforts for the MFM
Thank you!! I greatly appreciate what you are doing!! I can’t believe the crazy world we are living in.
Thanks for including my post, which was thrilling to see. However. I am a bit confused - and worried - about its context here? I can assure you it has nothing to do with your fight at all. It is about controlling and abusive relationships, especially in the context of those of suffering from chronic illness and trauma, and how it scales up to totalitarian states [to be honest it was a subtle in introduction to the post I actually I wanted to write - about the WEF - which I did in a follow up post]. I am sorry if you read this as a part of an attack on you and your fight. It is not, and I support what you are doing. ps I am absolutely no-one - a non-entity- in the MFM, I don't know anyone nor had any contact in the movement, apart from a brief exchange of emails with Norman Fenton, and via comments on substack. I doubt very much Kirsch know me from Adam!
I agree about the relationship between controlling behavior and totalitarian states, and one of the scalers is regulatory capture, and that's what controlled opposition is.
I will have more to explain, but I believe Steve bullies through absurdity. He changes his standards and terms widely. He offers these public bets, but behind the scenes, he begins negotiating contractual terms that do not look like the public offer claimed, IMHO. After I called out the ethics of this, I think he sort of fumblingly half admitted it in a substack post, but did he self correct?
A few weeks ago he called me about a half million dollar bet. He had just gotten off the phone with one of the judges after feeling him out. It felt like emotionally stacking the deck or only going far enough if an advantage was assured.
I'm nobody, too.
Phew! I think I misread the context because of where the link to my post appears in the text! I hadn't made the link between controlling behaviours and the controlled opposition phenomena, but it makes sense that they are part of the same thing. I once suggested to you in a comment that you should avoid division and in-fighting, and you said I was being naive. I took that to heart and realized you were right, and have been following your educational posts on this since. Knowing "how the magic trick is done" is helpful for awareness.
I'm glad my comment was taken as an educational nudge. Kudos to you for reconsidering (regardless of whether we fully agree, which we don't know amd matters little).
Gary, you are WONDERFUL!
I don't think you are nobody, Mathew. You've done a lot of important work and a lot (I have no idea the numbers) of people have read it and respect your opinions as a result. As far as "infighting" is concerned. The only way a movement grows stronger is by struggle and that includes criticism and self criticism. That's not the same as "infighting." I asked a person I had communicated with earlier who I knew was in contact with you and Kirsch and asked about the criticisms you have been leveling He couldn't/wouldn't (?) answer and then just shut me out of his account. I don't think I was rude and don't understand that kind of reaction. But I do understand that acting like that will undermine anything one tries to build. Keep it up! I think you are on the right track. As far as SK is concerned, I've grown tires of the endless bet proposals as something that is very unserious. But will really concerned me were the revelations about the donors to the trials of fluvoxamine. They were extremely concerning company to be keeping.
Can anyone help you offer(if you need it) 1 MILLION DOLLARS so you can challenge Steve Kirsch to a public debate? What a shame....
This is why local trust given and earned is more reliable. The robber baron steals less from the community as a parasite than a distant oligarchs because he is vested. That is, there are equilibria. Relocalization will help us dodge the need to to risk.being behind the curve in most cases.
I think the best unit is dependent on the technologies available for creating extended Dunbar circles of trust verification. The current Leviathon State wants to centralize that, which is doom. Decentralized that, and humanity achieves a new level of robustness.
"The first time I saw Steve was in a three-way with Malone and Weinstein."
I may have to bleach my brain from the image that produced. 😯😬
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Lol🤣🤣🤣
The other insidious problem with controlled oppo is that it destroys trust within the movement. Every time there is a disagreement, or a mistake, then each side yells "controlled opposition" at each other. It is difficult, if not impossible, to tell whether a leader is controlled oppo except often in retrospect years after the case. We can't read minds, we're not there in their private meetings. What does anybody really know about others motivations.
I just take it as fact that everybody is flawed. Nobody is perfect. Some people are liars. I try not to get too attached to "leadership." They may be right, they may be wrong. As a matter of fact, everybody is wrong at least some of the time, and that includes the leadership of any movement. So feel free to criticize and question anything about them.
Now is a leader wrong because he is controlled oppo, or just because he doesn't understand something, wants to focus on other things, or is too busy to follow through on a particular project. Leaders, and anybody in a movement for that matter, will always disappoint. Failure is a constant part of life and therefore, in any movement. Is it due to controlled opps? Maybe. Maybe not. Sometimes we can sniff out controlled opps, but sometimes it is more difficult.
We should clearly state when we find someone is wrong or has disappointed us in some way. We should say this person is wrong, and here is why and leave it at that rather than always pointing a finger and yelling 'controlled opp!'
I've been a part of many movements in my life and controlled opposition is certainly a fact. We have to try to find a way of dealing with it, but also with the destruction of trust that it causes, which is probably its most damaging aspect.
The fact that the truth tellers and the manipulators can each make the same claim is an old logic problem. The solutions are difficult for populations trained into poor logic and instincts from childhood. And that there defines many of our challenges. To move forward as a species, we must develop systems to solve those problems.
Yes, indeed it is. As humans are social beings, we are primed to follow leaders, follow the crowd, follow trends. This is what led to the irrational mass hysteria that covid 19 was. People need to learn not to trust the system, any system, even a rival system set up as opposition to a bad system.
The problem of the last few years wasn't the virus, or even the vaccines. It was the lock step robotic following of horrendous, damaging oppressive totalitarian policies.
I'm not sure how to crack that nut. People follow others because we live in a complex society where some have better expertise than others. So we learn to follow leaders, professionals, 'experts' and the like. No one can become an instant expert on everything, many do not have the ability or time to do so. So we follow others.
Look, every time I get on an airplane I don't have the time to figure out if that airplane has been well designed, manufactured, maintained, and if the pilot and flight crew are competent and not malicious. I just have to trust that they and the plane all are good and get on the plane. That is the same with everything in this society. I don't think that defaulting to trusting the leaders or experts is ever going to go away. And any system that purports to solve that problem can be hacked by bad actors, and the problem begins all over again. See 'fact checking' and 'debunking' sites like snopes for example.
This is what I propose: the System (all of what constitutes modern society) is corrupt and broken. Don't trust what comes out of any official outlet, or mainstream professional spokespeople. Actively seek out alternative ideas. Do not comply. This is what we need to get across to as many people as possible.
Be not afraid. And Do Not Comply!
Following a system is natural. We are all primed to be mimetic beings. We learn by looking around and going with patterns until we understand them or purely mimic.
What we need are adult guides reminding us when to ask, "If I don't understand after this long, I should seek guidance now."
At least, that would be one of my solutions-by-habit.
Yes, the problem that your original post references is just this. People see that a group has done bad things. Then they see people opposing the bad guys. So they think, hey, I'll follow these good guys! It is very difficult for people to see that some of the purported good guys can be bad guys also.
I think that is because it leads to too much psychological uncertainty. You simply don't know who to trust. We all want to belong to a group who will help us, in one way or another, but we cannot cohere into a group because of potential bad actors. Most people can't handle that so simply think "these are the good guys, I'll follow them unthinkingly. They've got this figured out." People takes sides and that's the end of it.
But most of the problems we have with 'leadership' are not because they are controlled opps. It's for a variety of reasons, mostly ego, some grifters, others who mean well but latched onto a bad idea or false narrative, others don't want to admit mistakes, and so on. Mostly its flawed people being flawed people.
I've had the same experience in resistance movements in the past. Thanks for making these important points.
I've reluctantly come to the conclusion that many of the prominent people in the Health Freedom movement and alternative media are controlled opposition/disinformation agents. I still follow some of these people if they provide mostly truth. But some of them I now avoid like the plague if they promote mostly disinfo. Sadly, we cling to anyone who tells us what we want to hear and then fall easily for their lies. We're too easily brainwashed to escape from the matrix.
We can escape it. In particular, the path to success is an economic one. Make it expensive for the controllers to brainwash or control you. Refresh your mind often.
Cheers.
I think some chaos agents are just big egos that revel in stirring pots! They aren't necessarily moored to any core beliefs or principles. Therefore, they're not really on any team but their own. Ironically, that makes then easy to manipulate by stroking their egos and celebrating the chaos with them. And, there are people very skilled at manipulation.
Yes, but some actually work for intelligence agencies, and some for "special interest" groups that may benefit off of the chaos.
Very true!
I agree, but I think the important thing is to realize it isn't the individual, so much as the misdirection, or lack of direction, they encourage, that is important. So that one's energy is best directed exposing the fallacy of their arguments, or their deliberate omission of important information, or just their creation of confusion or non-direction. Ad hominem attacks, or even just focusing on the individual as opposed to the ideas they represent, is not very productive of real results.
Thank you for your valuable research on the DMED data. The corruption of data in government and institutional custody (VAERS, economic statistics, financial transactions, electronic voting) is a threat to our freedoms. The solution is not to give authority to large organizations with agendas other than honesty. That's what I take home from this.
Thanks to you and many for making us aware of controlled opposition, limited hangouts and the like. I am properly suspicious.
I believe in you Mathew. I've followed you and know what you have done. Thank you.
Mathew, this is one of your best posts. It's important to evaluate each idea or argument on its own merits without judging the person who put the idea forth. Not everyone we disagree with is controlled opposition, and not every "limited hangout" is intentional, though controlled opposition and intentional "limited hangouts" do indeed exist. We must be skeptical, but not judgemental.
We do need to judge at times. Our society does not see leaders on a local group level call out bad behavior enough, IMHO.
Of course we must judge bad BEHAVIOR. And if the behavior is current and irrational/inconsistent enough that we can begin questioning motive, and the offender is currently employed by or surrounded with dark forces, by all means judge the individual and let that affect our assumptions about the individual's motives in other cases. Such is the case with Tony Fauci, Peter Daszak and many others at the heart of this criminal conspiracy. Clare M. Lopez's omissions and outright lies in this piece republished on Robert Malone's substack, and her current involvement with dark forces lead me to judge her very harshly: https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/long-history-of-chinas-ccp-and-biowarfare
However, I don't assume Malone's endorsement of her views is an indication that he is "controlled opposition." I believe his libertarian views are sincere, though they leave room for his naive acceptance of Lopez's anti-China distortions. His naivete is the mirror image of my own past naivete. I have for decades recognized the lies told to us by our military/foreign policy establishment, and even that there was undue corporate influence on HHS agencies, but I never dreamed that the corruption extended down to the Mayo Clinic or my own personal Clinic physicians. Like many others who naively believe it's OK for the US to criticize the domestic policies of other countries and even pressure them to modify their systems of governance, Malone has awakened to the corruption of HHS, but is still a sleep-walker when it comes to military/foreign policy. IMHO he is a welcome member of the movements for medical freedom and the scientific method as opposed to "the Science," though I will continue to oppose the use of China to distract from the West's deep corruption and irresponsibility.
Excellent comment, your perspective points out that everybody came into these 3 years with personal knowledge, experience, & biases. It is funny to me that many of “the dissidents” were leftists, supporters of Obama/Biden, who have been dragged into a different understanding of our government, media, & corporations. Begin with naïveté, throw in a little pride (including pride that oneself has the PROPER perspectives & priorities), and watch as conflict invariably arise.
This is the human condition, and while there clearly are enemy agents within “our side” (if you can even define what that is), charity towards one’s apparent allies is warranted. Interpreting circumstances from an overly personal perspective is risky when it leads to alienation & fragmentation.
Divide and Conquer remains a central principle. Pay attention!
Well said.
"Movements should be decentralized as much as possible in order to make the economic cost of containing them higher" - And there in lies the secret. Making the cost high.
People always want one voice speaking for the movement and I disagree. I'd rather have a dozen, or more, independent groups all working towards the same goals in different ways. That is a true 10 headed hydra for them to deal.
We've achieved a lot in 3 years because it was dozens of independent groups.
Very good point about Decentralization and Anti Fragility
If we start with the premise that a virus was released intentionally as a bioweapon, then we have to believe the spooks are in full gear, implementing all their old tricks, which includes trying to control the opposition. Would also include trying to sway people via blackmail, bribery or threats.
I'm much very hesitant to throw that accusation at any individual without a lot of evidence though.
However, just speculating here: there are two people that make me raise an eyebrow.
1. Andrew Huff: for one he puts out a salesman vibe. His theory is that the pandemic was caused by an accidental lab leak. As JJ Couey has pointed out, this is precisely the cover store that would be put out to cover up for an intentionally started pandemic. And who better to blow this whistle on this than someone who actually worked at EcoHealth?
To me, so many things suggest this was not an accident, and that makes me suspicious of Andrew.
2. Stew Peters: dude gives me the creeps. The doc he put out was rubbish. He seems like the type that is trying to make a name for himself. And I believe this is one who MC was referring to when he says he thinks some are trying to push MFM violent.
The establishment has been priming the public to view anti-vaxxers as domestic terrorists. You better believe it would be their wet dream if someone did something violent at this point.
Malone was right about Stew Peters, he is a carnival barker. It's sort of impressive that two states had to enact law as to what bail bondsman could wear, because Peters and his staff were being confused with the police that often. No so impressive two got shot dead however.
As a carnival barker he has done more for you than your elected official to keep you safe however.
I think Stew is probably just trying to make a name for himself in media. But we know for a fact that FBI for example has a long history of coaxing people into violent acts. So the idea that someone would be trying to radicalize people in the MFM to become violent isn't far fetched.
Love you, Mathew. Fabian method is at play here I believe. Explains some of the wrenches we've seen thrown into the MFM gears by high-profile individuals and groups. An example is the Nuremberg panel/Reiner Fuellmich ordeal. It was a morale blow to see the handling of that situation.
Below is an article, a bit dated, but gives a peek at the men behind the curtains shaping the digital agora.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/07/air-force-research-how-to-use-social-media-to-control-people-like-drones/
I have never given enough attention to Fuellmich, but such a effort organized so early carries at least a moderate suspicion. It felt weirder to see the Nuremberg label. Nuremberg strikes me as one of the greatest public failures of justice in history, despite a handful of meaningful convictions. Punishing 1% while rewarding the rest seems enabling.
I felt even worse when last year I saw Todd Callender interviewed by his panel, misinterpreting the DMED data. I mentioned it in the DMED work chat and Theresa Long barked at me. It was only then (May?) That I discovered that the whistleblowers had fired Renz in February to work with Todd.
I believe Matt Ehret, who was featured on the Neuremberg 2.0 list of speakers, is controlled opposition, claiming to be an expert on history, but I think he's trying to deflect blame from one group and direct it toward others.
I don't know much about him. Why do you feel that way?
It's morbid but interesting you mention Todd Callender. I had seen this snippet of interview with him, (https://gloria.tv/post/FZWzAHwE1LSn2qfkT7iZwXXJy#435), and had wishfully dismissed him as a crank. Then a friend who's on the up and up discussed it with me and asked if I had ever seen or read "Cell".
It's like that Chinese curse or proverb: 'may you live in interesting times'.